Where do words come from?

Tootsall · 06-30-2005, 10:52 AM

And now for something completely different......

I was reading another forum and saw a word. Suddenly it snapped on me... is THIS where this word comes from?

In a British website I saw the word "padlock". Now... why do we call a padlock a "PAD lock"? I suddenly remembered that a thief is cometimes called a "foot pad" in certain cultures. Does anyone know if the "pad" in "padlock" comes from the "pad" in "foot pad"?

Enough! I'm ready for a long weekend.

ROGERIO · 06-30-2005, 11:53 AM

Hey Toots,

Maybe (I doubt it though) it comes from PAD as in,
"my pad or yours baby?"

You would want to lock-up your pad when you are gone right? and you're gonna need a lock for that... so get a padlock...

Mr. Semman · 06-30-2005, 11:53 AM

padlock
"removable lock," 1479, from lokke (see lock), but the first element is a complete mystery. The verb is attested from 1645.

trumpet blower88 · 06-30-2005, 02:47 PM

Ah, an then comes the question, "where did "the" come from?" Why call it "the"? I think "Mshaeta" would have made a better word...

Mr. Semman · 06-30-2005, 03:07 PM

the
late O.E. þe, nom. masc. form of the demonstrative pronoun and adj. After c.950, it replaced earlier se (masc.), seo (fem.), þæt (neut.), and probably represents se altered by the þ- form which was used in all the masc. oblique cases (see below). O.E. se is from PIE base *so- "this, that" (cf. Skt. sa, Avestan ha, Gk. ho, he "the," Ir., Gael. so "this"). For the þ- forms, see that. The s- forms were entirely superseded in Eng. by c.1250, excepting dial. survival slightly longer in Kent. O.E. used 10 different words for "the" (see table, below), but did not distinguish "the" from "that." That survived for a time as a definite article before vowels (cf. that one or that other). Adv. use in the more the merrier, the sooner the better, etc. is a relic of O.E. þy, originally the instrumentive case of the neuter demonstrative þæt (see that).

trumpet blower88 · 06-30-2005, 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr. Semman

the
late O.E. þe, nom. masc. form of the demonstrative pronoun and adj. After c.950, it replaced earlier se (masc.), seo (fem.), þæt (neut.), and probably represents se altered by the þ- form which was used in all the masc. oblique cases (see below). O.E. se is from PIE base *so- "this, that" (cf. Skt. sa, Avestan ha, Gk. ho, he "the," Ir., Gael. so "this"). For the þ- forms, see that. The s- forms were entirely superseded in Eng. by c.1250, excepting dial. survival slightly longer in Kent. O.E. used 10 different words for "the" (see table, below), but did not distinguish "the" from "that." That survived for a time as a definite article before vowels (cf. that one or that other). Adv. use in the more the merrier, the sooner the better, etc. is a relic of O.E. þy, originally the instrumentive case of the neuter demonstrative þæt (see that).

Oh, I'm sorry... did you say something?

ROGERIO · 06-30-2005, 04:37 PM

OMG...

Mr Semman... way too much salt air for you... you're not drinking the stuff are you?

Mr. Semman · 07-01-2005, 08:09 AM

Not enough salt air. The "Selkie" is still all cocooned up! AAAaarggghh! Ye scurvy dogs.

Speaking of scurvy dogs, I thought I had a lesson yesterday. I went to my instructor's house only to find him gone! Oh well, more rum for me!!!

ROGERIO · 07-01-2005, 04:42 PM

Mr. Semman,

Went to your boat site.... nice boat!! I want to introduce you to a fellow trumpet player and friend here in Phoenix that is also very into sailing. Owns one of similar size to yours and keeps it at San Carlos, Mexico (Sea of Cortez).
Nice guy, great trumpet player... not sure about his sailing abilities... (trying to mess with him in case he decides to participate in this forum).

Rogerio

06-30-2005, 10:52 AM	#1 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Where do words come from? And now for something completely different...... I was reading another forum and saw a word. Suddenly it snapped on me... is THIS where this word comes from? In a British website I saw the word "padlock". Now... why do we call a padlock a "PAD lock"? I suddenly remembered that a thief is cometimes called a "foot pad" in certain cultures. Does anyone know if the "pad" in "padlock" comes from the "pad" in "foot pad"? Enough! I'm ready for a long weekend.

06-30-2005, 11:53 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mr. Semman Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Brookfield, MA Posts: 178	padlock "removable lock," 1479, from lokke (see lock), but the first element is a complete mystery. The verb is attested from 1645. __________________ ZeuS Olympus ZTR 1000 ZeuS Guarenius ZTR 900 Ageis F2 Bach 3C Bach 5C ________________________________________ "Let your words be soft and sweet. You never know when you will have to eat them!"

06-30-2005, 02:47 PM	#4 (permalink)
trumpet blower88 Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 644	Ah, an then comes the question, "where did "the" come from?" Why call it "the"? I think "Mshaeta" would have made a better word... __________________ -David Jacques

06-30-2005, 03:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Mr. Semman Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Brookfield, MA Posts: 178	the late O.E. þe, nom. masc. form of the demonstrative pronoun and adj. After c.950, it replaced earlier se (masc.), seo (fem.), þæt (neut.), and probably represents se altered by the þ- form which was used in all the masc. oblique cases (see below). O.E. se is from PIE base *so- "this, that" (cf. Skt. sa, Avestan ha, Gk. ho, he "the," Ir., Gael. so "this"). For the þ- forms, see that. The s- forms were entirely superseded in Eng. by c.1250, excepting dial. survival slightly longer in Kent. O.E. used 10 different words for "the" (see table, below), but did not distinguish "the" from "that." That survived for a time as a definite article before vowels (cf. that one or that other). Adv. use in the more the merrier, the sooner the better, etc. is a relic of O.E. þy, originally the instrumentive case of the neuter demonstrative þæt (see that). __________________ ZeuS Olympus ZTR 1000 ZeuS Guarenius ZTR 900 Ageis F2 Bach 3C Bach 5C ________________________________________ "Let your words be soft and sweet. You never know when you will have to eat them!"

07-01-2005, 08:09 AM	#8 (permalink)
Mr. Semman Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: West Brookfield, MA Posts: 178	Not enough salt air. The "Selkie" is still all cocooned up! AAAaarggghh! Ye scurvy dogs. Speaking of scurvy dogs, I thought I had a lesson yesterday. I went to my instructor's house only to find him gone! Oh well, more rum for me!!! __________________ ZeuS Olympus ZTR 1000 ZeuS Guarenius ZTR 900 Ageis F2 Bach 3C Bach 5C ________________________________________ "Let your words be soft and sweet. You never know when you will have to eat them!"

06-30-2005, 11:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
ROGERIO Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PHOENIX, AZ Posts: 926	Hey Toots, Maybe (I doubt it though) it comes from PAD as in, "my pad or yours baby?" You would want to lock-up your pad when you are gone right? and you're gonna need a lock for that... so get a padlock...

06-30-2005, 04:37 PM	#7 (permalink)
ROGERIO Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PHOENIX, AZ Posts: 926	OMG... Mr Semman... way too much salt air for you... you're not drinking the stuff are you?

07-01-2005, 04:42 PM	#9 (permalink)
ROGERIO Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: PHOENIX, AZ Posts: 926	Mr. Semman, Went to your boat site.... nice boat!! I want to introduce you to a fellow trumpet player and friend here in Phoenix that is also very into sailing. Owns one of similar size to yours and keeps it at San Carlos, Mexico (Sea of Cortez). Nice guy, great trumpet player... not sure about his sailing abilities... (trying to mess with him in case he decides to participate in this forum). Rogerio

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Unleash Your Anger
Copyright 2006 TrumpetMaster.com	All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:01 PM. Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v2.2.0/Links 1.01 Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2 Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8