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03-11-2008, 07:54 AM
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| Pianissimo User  Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Singapore
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  | 4 Valve Bb Horn? I have heard some rumours about 4 valve Bb horns for sale to the public. Im not sure about this,so does anyone have toughts on this? And yes,Im not talking about quatertone trumpets....just normal Bb horn with 4 valves.... |
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03-11-2008, 11:03 AM
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 | Re: 4 Valve Bb Horn? Thein makes one for 5000 Euros. In rotary valves. Matthias Hoefs
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03-11-2008, 11:54 AM
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 | Re: 4 Valve Bb Horn? 4 valve flugelhorns are more common than 4 valve Bb trumpet I believe.
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03-11-2008, 12:12 PM
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| Re: 4 Valve Bb Horn? Marcinkiewicz also makes a 4 valve Bb which I'm sure is fantastic. My last Marcinkiewicz horn was a very fine instrument! -T
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03-11-2008, 12:16 PM
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| Re: 4 Valve Bb Horn? Getzen makes a real nice four-valve Flugel. I owe one. I bought it at the time, because I could. The fourth valve tubing length is equal to the 1st and 3rd valves' tubing lengths. It would be the equivalent to having an "F" attachment on a Trombone. So, I guess on the Flugel Horn that would be a "G" attachment. For the most part, I have seen players use the 4th valve as an alternate fingering for depressing 1+3, (using slides on the tubing, pre-tuned) For me I like to use the G valve to extend the range of the instrument down to link down to the pedal registar. It's a great way to build lip strength when in a hurry! The horn has a larger bore than I would like for a jazz horn, but has a very "fat" full sound, especialy in the pedal tones.
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03-12-2008, 08:46 AM
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| Re: 4 Valve Bb Horn? Well,i knew u guys would say abt the quartertone trumpet...anyways and yup,I did find that rotary valve one....not interested though.. so,if anyone does know abt any 4 valve Bb horns...pls do thanks Last edited by BlackWhite; 03-12-2008 at 10:51 AM. |
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03-12-2008, 03:45 PM
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| Re: 4 Valve Bb Horn? Joe Marcinkiewicz has a custom 4-valve Bb on display in his showroom. It uses the valve block from his quarter-tone trumpet, but the 4th valve on this custom one does drop the pitch a fourth. Give him a call and ask if he'll build another one to order.
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03-12-2008, 05:36 PM
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| Re: 4 Valve Bb Horn? Quote:
 It will probably cost an arm and a leg to make another one. YouTube - Manhattan Jazz Orchestra & Hideki Saijo - Spinning Wheel Wilmer
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