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Old 02-10-2008, 12:55 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Am I Ready for the Piccolo?

Hey guys. For a while now i have been wanting a piccolo trumpet pretty badly and was wondering if im ready for one. And its ok if the answers no, as i havent been playing trumpet too long and might need more practice. So yeah ive been playing trumpet for about 3 1/2 years and im first chair in our school Honors band (the bands go like this (lowest to highest): Concert, Symphonic, Honors, Wind Ensemble) though i have a kinda bad tone which is for some reason at its worst (fuzzy that is) if ive been playing for like 2 hours straight, but if i come back to it its better. also my tuning slide is out about 1/2 to 3/4 of an inch, which through practice im trying to reduce to 1/4 of an inch. my private lesson teacher told me that its because im not using enough air. my highest note on any given day is as low as a high Concert D (above the 3rd octave Concert C) to high Concert G (3 steps above the Concert D). I was just wondering if i was ready for a piccolo trumpet. Pricewise, i realize that i need a $2000+ for a professional piccolo to last me a long time, but im looking below $1000, as low as i can get (may i remind you im a freshman and also have a car to be saving up for) before it gets unplayable. and i mean like its okay if its just okay quality, just as long as its playable, and later on i can buy a really good quality one. Thanks!
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:57 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Am I Ready for the Piccolo?

Do you own a C trumpet?
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Old 02-10-2008, 12:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Am I Ready for the Piccolo?

No i currently own a Bb Bach Strad
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Old 02-10-2008, 01:06 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Am I Ready for the Piccolo?

Buy a C trumpet before a Piccolo IMHO

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Old 02-10-2008, 01:14 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Re: Am I Ready for the Piccolo?

would this really be necessary? if its really required to get a c trumpet, then this is kind of out of the question. I got my Strad in 7th grade and play to use it until it literally doesnt work anymore. I like it way too much, dont have the money or willingness to buy another trumpet (regular non-piccolo trumpet that is :P), and also it costed me and my dad quite a lot for the one I got (my dad wouldn't even tell me the price, he just said that I would need to fork up at lease a grand if I were to get this trumpet, meaning my guess is its like $2500). Thank you very much for the input.
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Old 02-10-2008, 01:35 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Re: Am I Ready for the Piccolo?

I would wait for a while before purchasing a pic. Any problems that you have on the Bflat will only be amplified. You have so much to learn still on the B flat, keep practicing and lip bends will help with the tone issue. Listen to your teacher, he knows what is best for you.

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Re: Am I Ready for the Piccolo?

Alright Ill wait at least until these problems are corrected. Thanks!
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Re: Am I Ready for the Piccolo?

By the way, I was just wondering, what should my range be on the Bb before i can play piccolo. Also, when playing piccolo, does it always feel like it does when playing high on the trumpet. I personally do well in the higher range with high notes, they are pretty steady and usually i hit the note, even if i slur up to it from a note in the staff. I am wanting to try one out some time, but all i have is like 3 "Mr E's" music stores near me and none of them have any piccolo trumpets.
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Re: Am I Ready for the Piccolo?

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By the way, I was just wondering, what should my range be on the Bb before i can play piccolo. Also, when playing piccolo, does it always feel like it does when playing high on the trumpet. I personally do well in the higher range with high notes, they are pretty steady and usually i hit the note, even if i slur up to it from a note in the staff. I am wanting to try one out some time, but all i have is like 3 "Mr E's" music stores near me and none of them have any piccolo trumpets.
As a low brass player playing a Schilke P5-4 way too much lately, I play the picc almost completely different than Bb. I can get a good high F on the Schilke with a Schilke 11A. I play a Yamaha 2320 Bb with a Schilke 16, usually, with a range up to about a D above high C. I just take a completely different approach, with a different airstream, to the picc, because otherwise you get a very nasty sound and bad note transitions. It isnt really a matter of range on the Bb transtitioning to the picc- my friend can NAIL high Gs on a Bb, but struggles to get a D out on the picc.
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Re: Am I Ready for the Piccolo?

Here in the UK, the tradition for moving through the instruments is:

Bb Trumpet
Eb/D Trumpet
Piccolo Trumpet

One point to note is that I have always been able to play higher consistently on my Bb trumpet than on piccolo trumpet so if you want a piccolo to help with high notes you may be disappointed. Where the piccolo trumpet comes into its own is articulating complex passages in the mid to upper register. On a Bb trumpet all those notes are more difficult to differentiate and they tend to smear together at the top end.
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