trumplyr

Frank Kaderabek was also great when he was the principal in Detroit before he went to Philly.

I play a 229 Laskey Bach. If you say it's a #6 pipe, so be it. I really don't know what pipe they put on it. This horn started life with an "A" pipe on it. What a dog. Couldn't play in tune at all. Put a Pilczyk pipe with a round tuning crook, some improvement. Had the round crook changed to a square crook, some improvement, but still not a very good horn. Sent it to Ron & Scott. OMG, what a great horn. It plays in tune, slots great, wonderful response & the sound..........fantastic. I'll never sell it, in fact I had my Bb done also.


Marty

Mikey

I agree, Marty. I will never get rid of my Bach/Laskey horns either. I am still on "The List" for another horn, but I am going to wait until they get their own horn out.

The main reason that I posted this question was to see if we players in general were gravitating to a specific bell/leadpipe combo. I agree with a previous post about the 25H/229 combination. I also cannot stand it; too many out of tune notes.

Scott told me their leadpipe is something of their own design, but if you had to compare it to a Bach, it was closest to a #6. I think it may be larger in certain spots.

I have also left a message with Bob Malone about trying to get a Yamaha C, but he won't return my calls. I guess he is too busy making horns for major symphony players. So be it; I will stick with my Laskey/Bach.

I have heard that the 239 bell can work better for some people, depending on what leadpipe and tuning slide are used.

Let the debate continue.....
Mike

trumplyr

richtom said: "I guess the point of the story is you must play the horn that works for you. Not all symphony players play the 229 bell, in fact, the great Frank Kaderabek used a Selmer Radial for much of his time as principal in Philly."

I talked about this to the other trumpet player in my group at our Christmas gig. He is a personal friend of Franks, and he (my buddy) told me that Frank played a Bach C here in Detroit. Don't know what model or bell he used here.

My friend said that Frank changed to a Selmer when he went to Philly because that is what Ormandy wanted/required. I really don't know if he stayed with the Selmer until he retired or not. Perhaps richtom knows.

Bach / Selmer...or whatever...play what gets the job done for you.

Marty

romey1

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richtom

Hi, folks.
I got the info on Frank Kaderabek from an ITG interview done in December of 1996. I'm not great at computer stuff and I just did a google search on him. There are some great pictures of him and some very esteemed colleages of his. Great article on a great player. He was (is) fabulous on any trumpet.

The more I am playing my new 239/25A large bore, the more I realize what a gem this horn is and why, despite my mind-set that I was going to get a 229/25H, I kept going back to it over and over. It does what I want it to and that is what a good horn should do. Most importantly, it has the sound I want to produce. That's what we all look for and when we find it, it makes practice a pleasure and gives us more confidence in performance and the subsequent ability to make better music.

MrV

I own a Bach C Trumpet witht a 229 bell and FULLY customized by Bob Malone when he had his shop here in CA. It has the Lead pipe MC2 and he also added a bigger attachment to the bell, the part that is connected to the first valve. Need lots of air but gives great volume. He also took the part of the first valve slide that connects to the bell. I have the option of either using it or not. I can slide in, and yes it makes a darker sound I have no idea how it works other than is problably the same concept as adding heavy caps to the trumpet specially the third valve.
Oh yea! he also engrave the word "Malone" on the trumpet. I didn't mind.
It's all silver plated so it looks like it came with the original trumpet. ;)