Bach Omega

brian moon · 09-21-2006, 09:58 AM

A local store is pushing Bach Omegas now. They are stocking them with 5C mouthieces. That isn't standard on the Omega, is it? I also have seen two versions of the Omega. One is a Tr200 and the other is a Tr300. They are only marked Omega but it is easy to tell the difference. If someone mail orders one how do they know which one that they are getting?

Maybe the Tr300 said Prelude on it, but I don't think so.

oldlou · 09-21-2006, 12:36 PM

It is usually not wise to buy any musical instrument sight unseen or untried. If you do, be sure of a return for refund privelage. As for being uncertain as to whether you will be receiving a TR 200, or TR 300, that is easy. Specify which you are paying for. In the event that the dealer plays 'bait and switch' with you, you then have grounds for suit, or, at least for action by his local trade association or Better Business Bureau.

OLDLOU>>

Clarence · 09-25-2006, 07:45 PM

I owned a omega and dat lil sucker was tight!
great studio horn, very cutting and strong blowing!
hell, i even blew dat lil sucker apart.
good thing i only paid $150 for it . lasted one year exactly!
hahahaaa.

Bill Dishman · 09-26-2006, 06:55 PM

Please inform me if I am incorrect but my understanding was that the Bach Omega line of horns was a "step up" instrument between the student model TR-300 (with 1st slide saddle) and the Bach Stradivarius professional models. The TR-200 was also a lower level student model horn just like the TR-300 but without the 1st slide saddle and with an adjustable 3rd slide ring.

A private student of mine a few years ago purchased an Omega model horn and it was very good...but.....for the money she paid, I would have had her get a quality used Bach Strad or waited a little longer to save up for a new Strad.

The post about a $150 Omega must have been refering to a real "steal" of a deal as even a few years ago the Omega were listing for $1200 or there about (retail).

I was also under the impression that Bach stopped making the Omegas a while back (even before the strike) so any new ones coming around now must have been stockpiled in inventory. I may be incorrect in this however.

Bill Dishman
Gainesville, Florida

Clarence · 09-26-2006, 10:22 PM

Oh yeah!
bought that omega in a used guitar store.
the guy just had all kinds of trumpets hanging off the wall.
i remember trying 5 or 6 horns before i came across that one.
hmmmmmm about 8 years ago alright.

brian moon · 09-26-2006, 10:33 PM

The Omega played pretty well but was a bit heavy. The horn that I thought was a Tr-300 version of the Omega may have been the accursed, chinese built, Prelude. I'll check again tomorrow.

Bill the Tr-200 is the intermediate Bach. It has a Strad body and a different leadpipe with a 2 piece version of a Bach 37 (pretty similar to the TR-300 bell). They may getting close to chinese production, if not already, also.

Clarence · 09-26-2006, 11:43 PM

oh yeah, i knew i had the china one, for sure.
it said omega and nothing else.

09-21-2006, 09:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
brian moon Mezzo Piano User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bloomfield Township, Mich Posts: 565	Bach Omega A local store is pushing Bach Omegas now. They are stocking them with 5C mouthieces. That isn't standard on the Omega, is it? I also have seen two versions of the Omega. One is a Tr200 and the other is a Tr300. They are only marked Omega but it is easy to tell the difference. If someone mail orders one how do they know which one that they are getting? Maybe the Tr300 said Prelude on it, but I don't think so. __________________ Revelation 3:20 Last edited by brian moon; 09-21-2006 at 10:02 AM.

09-21-2006, 12:36 PM	#2 (permalink)
oldlou Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 679	Bach Omega It is usually not wise to buy any musical instrument sight unseen or untried. If you do, be sure of a return for refund privelage. As for being uncertain as to whether you will be receiving a TR 200, or TR 300, that is easy. Specify which you are paying for. In the event that the dealer plays 'bait and switch' with you, you then have grounds for suit, or, at least for action by his local trade association or Better Business Bureau. OLDLOU>> __________________ Couturier trumpet York Master Model trumpet York Elite trumpet York Airflow cornet King super 20 Master Model cornet King Liberty trumpet Reynolds Professional cornet Bohm & Meinl professional trumpet Besson 10-10 trumpet with Holton M.F. bell Olds Special cornet Los Angeles B&H Sovereign cornet G.R.Band Instr. cornet Getzen Super Deluxe trumpet and cornet Getzen Deluxe trumpet and cornet Many others no room to list

09-25-2006, 07:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Clarence Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 769	I owned a omega and dat lil sucker was tight! great studio horn, very cutting and strong blowing! hell, i even blew dat lil sucker apart. good thing i only paid $150 for it . lasted one year exactly! hahahaaa. __________________ You heard it here 1st, in what ever u do if u buy the ticket u take the ride! Stage 1XH Bb Phaeton 2030 Bb Jupiter flugle 846bl black Kersting Pocket trumpet Stage1 MP schilke 11 MP Sdsytems LCM77 wireless Shure PGX wireless

09-26-2006, 06:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bill Dishman Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Gainesville, Florida Posts: 120	Bach Omega Please inform me if I am incorrect but my understanding was that the Bach Omega line of horns was a "step up" instrument between the student model TR-300 (with 1st slide saddle) and the Bach Stradivarius professional models. The TR-200 was also a lower level student model horn just like the TR-300 but without the 1st slide saddle and with an adjustable 3rd slide ring. A private student of mine a few years ago purchased an Omega model horn and it was very good...but.....for the money she paid, I would have had her get a quality used Bach Strad or waited a little longer to save up for a new Strad. The post about a $150 Omega must have been refering to a real "steal" of a deal as even a few years ago the Omega were listing for $1200 or there about (retail). I was also under the impression that Bach stopped making the Omegas a while back (even before the strike) so any new ones coming around now must have been stockpiled in inventory. I may be incorrect in this however. Bill Dishman Gainesville, Florida

09-26-2006, 10:22 PM	#5 (permalink)
Clarence Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 769	Oh yeah! bought that omega in a used guitar store. the guy just had all kinds of trumpets hanging off the wall. i remember trying 5 or 6 horns before i came across that one. hmmmmmm about 8 years ago alright. __________________ You heard it here 1st, in what ever u do if u buy the ticket u take the ride! Stage 1XH Bb Phaeton 2030 Bb Jupiter flugle 846bl black Kersting Pocket trumpet Stage1 MP schilke 11 MP Sdsytems LCM77 wireless Shure PGX wireless

09-26-2006, 10:33 PM	#6 (permalink)
brian moon Mezzo Piano User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Bloomfield Township, Mich Posts: 565	The Omega played pretty well but was a bit heavy. The horn that I thought was a Tr-300 version of the Omega may have been the accursed, chinese built, Prelude. I'll check again tomorrow. Bill the Tr-200 is the intermediate Bach. It has a Strad body and a different leadpipe with a 2 piece version of a Bach 37 (pretty similar to the TR-300 bell). They may getting close to chinese production, if not already, also. __________________ Revelation 3:20

09-26-2006, 11:43 PM	#7 (permalink)
Clarence Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 769	oh yeah, i knew i had the china one, for sure. it said omega and nothing else. __________________ You heard it here 1st, in what ever u do if u buy the ticket u take the ride! Stage 1XH Bb Phaeton 2030 Bb Jupiter flugle 846bl black Kersting Pocket trumpet Stage1 MP schilke 11 MP Sdsytems LCM77 wireless Shure PGX wireless

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