Best Valve Block?

orchestra_trumpet_star · 07-17-2006, 05:43 PM

Hi,
I am wondering, in your opinion, what the best valve block is (for C trumpet), especially for symphonic work, but one that can be easily played in solo and chamber settings. Thanks for your help!

Veldkamp · 07-17-2006, 05:58 PM

That's a strange question. There a a lot of good valve blocks like Bauerfeind, Bach, Kanstul, Schilke, Getzen. I wouldn't buy a trumpet only because of it's great valves. There are more important things to consider when choosing a horn.

orchestra_trumpet_star · 07-17-2006, 08:26 PM

haha...I am only asking about valve blocks becasue I am thinking of putting together a horn that matches me the best. By asking this question, I was only curious to what valves you guys like the best :). Also, do valve blocks effect anything elese besides feel? Thanks for your reply!

Veldkamp · 07-18-2006, 02:12 AM

OK, then Bauerfeind would be a good option. The width of the holes in the valves are important for the resistance. If the holes are smaller then then bore size then you will feel more resistance. Next to that the weight of the valve block is important. More weight dampens the resonation and gives a darker sound and a bit more projection or a centered sound. Compare it with adding heavy caps on a horn.

Liad Bar-EL · 07-18-2006, 05:15 AM

I don't know what company Andy Taylor uses for his valve blocks. All I know is that they are made in Germany and they are the BEST I have ever seen and used.

As I understand, that from this company, you can get them in different weights and if you want the weight that Andy Taylor uses, then you will have to purchase them from him.

Does anybody know the name of that German company?

Liad Bar-EL

Veldkamp · 07-18-2006, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liad Bar-EL

Does anybody know the name of that German company?

Bauerfeind.

Liad Bar-EL · 09-26-2006, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Veldkamp

Bauerfeind.

Thanks Erik,

I wanted to bring this thread back on top to let everyone know that Taylor and Eclipse horns use the Bauerfeind valve block.

It's probably THE best of all valve blocks on the market today and for sure the best that I have ever used.

Liad Bar-EL

rowuk · 09-27-2006, 02:17 AM

Hi Star,
you have one very ambitious project! What bell/leadpipe are you looking at (I know René Spada experiments a lot and said for instance, Schilke valves do not work well with Bach bells and leadpipes). Are you interested in light, medium or heavy horns? What horns have you tried and not been happy with?

trumpetmike · 09-27-2006, 05:41 AM

The Galileo valve blocks are truly excellent as well - they used to use the same Bauerfeind as Eclipse and Taylor, they now make their own and they are truly incredible.

Liad Bar-EL · 09-27-2006, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trumpetmike

The Galileo valve blocks are truly excellent as well - they used to use the same Bauerfeind as Eclipse and Taylor, they now make their own and they are truly incredible.

Where is Galileo and what is their specialty? Do you have a site address?

I would like to know how they compare to Bauerfeind.

Thanks,

Liad Bar-EL

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orchestra_trumpet_star New Friend Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 28	Best Valve Block? Hi, I am wondering, in your opinion, what the best valve block is (for C trumpet), especially for symphonic work, but one that can be easily played in solo and chamber settings. Thanks for your help! __________________ What I Play Currently: Bach 37GH 25RH Kanstul 1510 Schilke P5-4 Yamaha 16C4-GP GR 67VC Schilke 11AX

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Veldkamp Piano User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 382	That's a strange question. There a a lot of good valve blocks like Bauerfeind, Bach, Kanstul, Schilke, Getzen. I wouldn't buy a trumpet only because of it's great valves. There are more important things to consider when choosing a horn. __________________ www.erikveldkamp.com http://trumpetkings.blogspot.com

07-17-2006, 08:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
orchestra_trumpet_star New Friend Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 28	haha...I am only asking about valve blocks becasue I am thinking of putting together a horn that matches me the best. By asking this question, I was only curious to what valves you guys like the best :). Also, do valve blocks effect anything elese besides feel? Thanks for your reply! __________________ What I Play Currently: Bach 37GH 25RH Kanstul 1510 Schilke P5-4 Yamaha 16C4-GP GR 67VC Schilke 11AX

07-18-2006, 02:12 AM	#4 (permalink)
Veldkamp Piano User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: the Netherlands Posts: 382	OK, then Bauerfeind would be a good option. The width of the holes in the valves are important for the resistance. If the holes are smaller then then bore size then you will feel more resistance. Next to that the weight of the valve block is important. More weight dampens the resonation and gives a darker sound and a bit more projection or a centered sound. Compare it with adding heavy caps on a horn. __________________ www.erikveldkamp.com http://trumpetkings.blogspot.com

09-27-2006, 02:17 AM	#8 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,640	Hi Star, you have one very ambitious project! What bell/leadpipe are you looking at (I know René Spada experiments a lot and said for instance, Schilke valves do not work well with Bach bells and leadpipes). Are you interested in light, medium or heavy horns? What horns have you tried and not been happy with? __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

07-18-2006, 05:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
Liad Bar-EL Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Jerusalem, Israel Posts: 1,168	I don't know what company Andy Taylor uses for his valve blocks. All I know is that they are made in Germany and they are the BEST I have ever seen and used. As I understand, that from this company, you can get them in different weights and if you want the weight that Andy Taylor uses, then you will have to purchase them from him. Does anybody know the name of that German company? Liad Bar-EL

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trumpetmike Forte User Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Farnham (a place too smal Posts: 1,202	The Galileo valve blocks are truly excellent as well - they used to use the same Bauerfeind as Eclipse and Taylor, they now make their own and they are truly incredible.

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