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Old 02-20-2006, 11:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Boosey & Hawkes & India

The following FASCINATING article just came to light (actually just posted a day ago!). It is a bit of a diatribe by one Denis Wedgwood (he of ovoid valve and Saturn waterkey fame) about the subject company (now that it is essentially dead and buried and being run by someone else). You can read it at http://www.themouthpiece.com/vb/showthread.php?t=19436 . (appears to be a fascinating website/bb list, btw).

Since the original attachment included a request to publicize it as much as possible, here goes:
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Boosey & Hawkes (Besson) – The True Story

I was four and a half years old when my father decided to present me with his cornet. It was a Besson. He’d bought it second hand in 1935 at the Crystal Palace Exhibition, and, as he was playing Soprano Cornet with Fairys Band at the time, he didn’t need it.

It gleamed: leather case polished, with my name engraved on the lid. My Besson Cornet, with it’s separate ‘back’ slide for ‘A’, or Low Pitch as it was called then, earned its keep in two works bands – Ferrodo & Clayton Aniline – with me as a 12 year old boy soloist at 30 [pre- Euro] shillings per week, eventually spending lots of years in the pit at the Royal Opera House grinding out Swan Lake Neapolitans & Prokofiev Nightmares – for me anyway.
The only thing I did to my Besson Cornet was to fit a third slide lever for the Cornet duet with Mr. Dilley, the Principal, in Verdi’s Opera Don Carlos, when we recorded it with Guilini. Mr. Guilini, until he heard us, thought that the cornet was less mellow in sound than the trumpet – rather than the opposite. Oh, and Mr. Dilley used an even older Besson Cornet than mine, still with its ‘echo’ attachment.

Generations pass, and my Besson Cornet has long ago been presented to my sons – who perhaps think of it as an heirloom. But it still works today.
So what went wrong? What happened to the world-wide reputation of the famous British Musical Instrument Company Boosey & Hawkes [Besson]?

INSTRUMENT DESIGN
It’s said that the ‘death of a company’ is when management has got rid of the ‘old gaffer’ who could remember trying something twenty years before that didn’t work.
I used to know ‘old gaffers’ that previously worked at Boosey & Hawkes when I was a 16-year-old apprentice at Meyers & Harrison in Manchester. They must be turning in their graves.

What’s the point in designing the main tuning slide on a tuba to be less in length than a cornet main tuning slide, the latter being 3 or 4 times higher in pitch? Even a basic knowledge of physics & acoustics is enough to know that the pitch/length of a brass instrument doesn’t start at the mouthpiece. Ignoring ‘end correction’ of the bell, and ambient temperature, the Pitch/length is always somewhere down the players throat. Were B & H thinking of cloning standardised bass players? Did the designer ever sit in a cold church waiting to play with his tuning slide fully in, knowing his or her first note is still going to be flat? Obviously not.

There are formulae for this sort of thing, but the B & H physicist left years ago, to start his own very successful instrument company, and was not replaced.
If tuba, euphonium & bass players, as we know, are not all the same length, weight & size & don’t all use the same types of mouthpiece or play at the same angle, why make their instruments one size? Why aren’t the mouthpipes adjustable for height & angle? It can be done. Why hasn’t it? B & H basses & euphoniums used to be part of their flagship.
Yamaha make some of their instruments with detachable valve sections. It’s a small step, but a massive one for players and technicians.

STAINLESS STEEL VALVES
At some period over the last few years Boosey & Hawkes [Besson] changed their valve material from Monel, or similar, to stainless steel. Presumably this was to make the manufacturing process cheaper. [The normal process is to start with a larger diameter valve tube to take the pressure of passage insertion, and then grind it down to size.] This crass decision of using Stainless Steel has now put a finite life on an instrument. Stainless steel is not a bearing material. Any good engineer will tell you this. So what happens? A valve, made of material as hard as the cutlery we use to eat, is in constant frictional contact with the relatively soft brass of the instrument casing. So instead of the two different bearing materials ‘mating’ together,
i.e. Brass/Monel/German Silver etc., the stainless steel valve grinds out the valve casing itself on each depression by the player. Add a small blemish to the stainless steel and we have the perfect scourer.
Of course, as Stainless Steel is not a bearing material, valves stick – the player takes them out, believing that oil is needed. This grinds & scores the inner casing even more when they re-insert them. In a very short time the valve casing of the instrument becomes triangular in section.
The reason for this is: looking at a valve, it can be approximately sectioned into three vertical banks of holes with three continuous lengths of metal separating them. The latter, having more mass, grind away the casing at a different rate to the holed sections. Q.E.D. triangular casings = ruined instrument.
Prove it yourselves. Loosen the top valve cap of your ‘Besson’ Tuba, Tenor Horn etc, lift the valve clear of the pin, then carefully rotate the valve. Does it rotate freely, or does it feel like driving on a flat tyre? If the latter – yes, you’ve very likely got Stainless Steel valves and your casings are getting nicely chewed.

On the other hand, improvements that wouldn’t have cost any money have been ignored, thus costing players thousands of pounds over the years in repairs.
On the ‘bottom sprung’ valves i.e. basses, euphoniums etc. there is a small area between the top of the valve itself and the valve cap in the casings that collects detritus. This quite often prevents the valve from being taken out, embedding itself between the valve and the top of the casing as the player attempts to pull it clear. The valve jams, leaving something of a dilemma. Does the player continue to try & pull the valve clear [this jams it] or just push it back, unoiled? Very often, in battle conditions, more pressure is applied to pull it clear. Valve jams solidly, lots of willing helpers then try home remedies: - end result – trip to the repairers and a very large bill.
All this could have been prevented by a small recess bored around the top of the valve casing to allow any dirt to be pushed into it. Result: - less sticking valves, lower repair bills and peace of mind for the player – at no extra cost to the manufacturer. Has it been done……?

FINANCE DEPARTMENT DESIGN [TINKERING RESEARCH & DEVELOPMENT]
As I said earlier about the ‘old gaffer’ remembering early years – triggered tuning slides on cornets!
We used to discuss things like this when I was an apprentice.
The Patent Office Archives are full of them, including Distins multi-belled fantasies. When a player uses combinations 1 & 3, or all three valves simultaneously, it’s the third slide, or perhaps the first valve slide in certain circumstances, that needs lengthening, not flattening the whole instrument with a trigger on the main tuning slide.
This is what I call Finance Department Design. Improves nothing, cheap to do, and should be sold on Daytime TV. But in this case I believe that you do get a spanner with every so-called ‘top of the range’ Besson Cornet, and levers that George Stephenson would have been proud to use on his ‘Rocket’ Steam Engine.
Players today want customisation. They want choice: interchangeable bells, mouthpipes, different metals and such – exactly like they choose their mouthpieces. Everyone’s different.
Choice & Customisation happens in the Automotive industry. Fords are not all black now. Yet why should a firm like B & H insist on dictating to the virtuoso and the not so virtuoso brass player what tools they should use? Why should Brass Band cornet players, from the third to the principal, be persuaded to play a standardised instrument advertised by the current promotional virtuoso?
The lower cornets of the band might want a different timbre to the principal. Make interchangeable bells – we do, because I for onewouldn’t dare to dictate my prejudices to some of the players we meet. They are too seriously good.

It’s not easy to get good sheet brass in Britain suitable for musical instruments. Which is one of the reasons we electro-form our bells: copper, nickel, silver – even sandwiches of the same. By good sheet brass I mean a soft, high copper content, malleable material. ButI’m sure it’s possible to get if ordered in large quantities, so there’s no excuse for B & H not to have done so. Their bell material has deteriorated over the years to the constituency of a Coke Can. Their method of making them is also more akin to the drinks trade– hydraulic expansion, brazed ‘China Man’s Hat’ seams with the end result [with no alternative for the player, remember] being a work hardened product that could be used to knock nails in. And, I suspect, internal grain growth due to hydraulic expansion.

The Germans, Americans and the Japanese to a large extent use good brass, why couldn’t Boosey & Hawkes? The answer is, production managed by the Accounts Department. Never mind the instruments primary purpose, its sound, lets just try & make it look nice & shiny & flog it as quickly as possible. Competitors, Bach & Yamaha for example, realise that no company can stand still and have eaten into our UK home market with their instruments. They’ve succeeded by not falling into those traps.

QUALITY CONTROL [OR LACK OF IT] AT BOOSEY & HAWKES
The only thing the UK can produce & sell in these times is quality.
Doesn’t matter what the product is; it has to be the absolute top of the range. Britain cannot compete with countries whose labour costs are a fortieth of ours. Which means that we either abandon our manufacturing capacity entirely, or design & make things that low labour costs countries cannot (yet). This obviously includes scientific research. Research & Development is a priority: if we don’t keep this up our lead erodes. I’m not talking about Accounts Department R & D “can we make it cheaper” to shove the balance sheet up this year. [For example, “lets save 2p per cornet and put a Pop rivet in a trigger rather than a neat locking screw”]. I’m talking about quality R & D to keep ahead of the competition. In the case of Boosey & Hawkes, their idea of R & D has been one of the contributory factors in their demise as we’ve seen above.
For any firm, it only needs just one dissatisfied customer to undo years of goodwill. We all know the speed of bad news.
Where quality control is non-existent, no amount of self-publicity will help, andBoosey & Hawkes has always had an excellent publicity department.
I’ve lost count of the hundreds of players who’ve come to our workshops with Sovereign Triggers that won’t trig, water keys that won’t water, pistons that won’t ………enough of that! And we are only one tiny Welsh Firm.

It’s not very easy explaining to a player, who has just spent well over a £1000 on a cornet, that the reason their third slide trigger will never work is because the tubes aren’t parallel and the instrument needs a complete rebuild, rather than sending it back to the factory for the third time to have even more ground off the slide legs so they rattle & leak. The same applies to valves. Can’t get the water out? Well, it helps if there was a hole drilled into the tube under the water key first.Yes, it’s happened more than once.

D STOCK
An interesting exercise in reverse quality control. A ‘D’ stock Boosey & Hawkes [Besson] instrument can sometimes be identified by a tiny letter stamped in an obscure place. And sometimes not. This means it is sold as an inferior standard instrument (without rights) to Dealers, who are only shown a ‘slight lacquer blemish’ or tiny transit dent, and buy them in good faith. As such, the dealer passes it on to their customer at a good discount. The dealer’s being honest. He doesn’t know that, apart from that ‘little blemish’ there’s a hidden minefield of manufacturing & assembly disaster: pipes sawn off too short & butted together, ill-fitting valves, and sometimes mouthpipe angles that would suit a giraffe or penguin. Things are so bad that one well known & honourable British Retailer only sells Boosey & Hawkes instruments as seconds – even when they are new – as they cannot guarantee them.
I had one in recently for silverplate from a lacquer finish: it fell to pieces. Quite frankly, the person who thought up this method of disposing of substandard instruments should be………………………………………….

This space is reserved for your own comments.

A friend of mine who used to own a very large freight company had his own method of quality control. A rather untidy character, jeans, anorak, Backpack, walks unannounced into one of his freight companies world-wide offices. After testing the counter service, with a parcel, he tells the manager who he is & asks to see the books. Just imagine the consternation, especially if the counter service had been a bit offhand. That’s before he’s seen the books. And to add the cream he tells the manager not to book him a hotel, he’ll sleep on the office floor. This was his method of overseeing his business. Just calling in his offices worldwide unannounced.
Now that’s quality control.

So what does a Managing Director do if he doesn’t understand his core business and is consequently losing money?
One standard ploy he usesis Management by Acquisition – which is natural really, if you don’t know a micrometer from a milkchurn.
Let’s buy someone else’s successful business.
Buffet Woodwind, Keilworth Saxophones, Rico and lots more.
They’ll look great on our balance sheet. We’ll borrow the money. Never mind the core business. And/or – one can almost hear the Board Room coffee cups clinking – “Let’s get a franchise on a ‘Third World’ factory so we can compete at the cheap end of the market.” “What about India!?” “Everyone else is going to China & the Far East.” So what happens? As the Managing Director still doesn’t know what he’s doing - or, more to the point, what he wants, the same shoddy unsupervised instruments start to come out of their newest acquisition; the only difference being it is now stamped with ‘Made for’ Boosey & Hawkes.

“My valves make a funny knocking sound,” said the little kid, looking at me and expecting miracles, “and my teacher said to bring it to you & you’ll fix it.” Hmm. How many of us have had to tell parents that they’ve just wasted their money buying their offspring a ‘Made for’ Boosey & Hawkes [Besson] instrument? In this case the damn fool who designed the valve finger tops made them too large a diameter, so they hit the brass sides of the caps instead of the felt cushion when the valves are depressed. How about the ‘Made for’ cornets with no bell rim wire, making repair virtually impossible. Try telling parents that.

Don’t blame the ‘Third World’ workers. Take a good look at the British Manager who gave them their brief.

It’s not a pure co-incidence that an Arbiter Tenor Saxophone crook perfectly fits into a top of the range Selmer Tenor Sax body. Its rather more to do with a very astute guy stipulating and getting the quality and design he wanted from the ‘Far East’ factory years ago.
It’s not, of course, co-incidence that the ‘Elkhart’ Student cornet [Vincent Bach/Taiwan I believe] is good enough to be played professionally. It’s more to do with another very astute bloke, who incidentally now manages a Beaconsfield Instrument Company, also stipulating and getting exactly what he wants.
There are many more examples like these. So don’t blame the poor guys sweating away for a bowl of rice.

As many readers of this article will have realised, by now, the debaclian demise of Britain’s largest musical instrument manufacturers can be traced directly to management. If the extant MD doesn’t know the mechanics of a Tenor Horn from a Tea Pot - let alone the intricacies of Mr. Blaikley’s compensatory valve system, what chance is there of his factory producing quality products? They knew their job in the 70s/80s and before. E.g. two generations of the Gillard family, spanning 50 years or more.

The later ones – well: X whose claim to fame was installing an automatic radiator welding line in his previous job. Y used to be something in the perfume industry, Z a promoted salesman – at least he sold musical instruments.

Years ago I was wined & dined by one of these managers in Surrey [free lunch?], invited to the factory, told by him that if that if I didn’t sell them one of my cornets to copy, they’d do it anyway. He ‘left’ three weeks later. How can these characters even know who to hire to do jobs they know nothing about?

It’s strange how odd vignettes surface from encounters of this kind. I was once invited to have dinner in the Boosey & Hawkes canteen. Great, let’s talk to some of the people who really know the business on the shop floor. Not exactly, as it happened. The Boosey & Hawkes canteen – restaurant if you like – was subdivided. A curtained off area had plush chairs, tablecloths and waitresses with frilly black aprons. This was reserved for Management. Same food! But I didn’t get to meet anyone on the other side of the curtain. Nothing like segregation!

Some time ago I went into a medium size factory with some work we needed doing. “Is the boss around?” “Yeah, he’s on the shop floor somewhere.” “Thanks, I’ll find him.” After wandering round the busy machine shop, still no boss, I saw a pair of legs sticking out from under a C.N.C. Then a voice attached itself to the legs & said “What the **** do you want?” This bloke knew his business, his clients and his machines. We became friends from that day.

Another management ploy – usually after a disaster, or bad publicity is ‘the name change’.
“Mr. Chairman, we’re not getting good publicity from all the returned Boosey & Hawkes Instruments, especially after our Lottery Windfalls. May I suggest that we change our name back to Besson, as in the past. We used to make good ones then.”

I was 17 the first time I was taken to the Boosey & Hawkes Factory in Edgware. It was a day trip from Meyers & Harrison in Manchester, the ‘Higham’ brand of instrument makers, and repairers. We made a lot of cornets & bugles for other firms and the Army. This trip was with my foreman and works manager. My brief was to look around the Boosey & Hawkes factory while my bosses were in meetings, and see it they were doing things differently to us. From a seventeen years olds view, the factory was humming. Production lines of Basses, Cornets, Euphoniums & Tenor Horns etc. – bell making department emanating anvilian chimes that would have inspired Verdi & Wagner.

I was er – 59 the last time an MD invited me to Edgware: not too long ago
“Hi, my name’s Wedgwood, I’ve been invited here by your Managing Director.” The sneer of the gateman should have warned me! Looking at my old BMW he said “Motor Bikes go round the back: you can’t leave that there.”

Ah well, the disease has finally spread to the factory gate. It’s amusing to think what my freight company friend would have done. But the real tragedy of this story goes deeper. More lost skills, more lost jobs, and the wilful destruction of what was once a proud British name.
Will we ever learn?

Denis Wedgwood, Llys Pres/Saturn Water Keys/Wedgwood Cornets & Trumpets
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Old 02-21-2006, 04:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Quoting Denis last sentence..Will we ever learn? I guess not...the same has happened to our Shipbuilding, car production, truck production, steel production, tinplate production, rail rolling stock etc....the list is endless
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Toots,

Thanks for sharing that. It's one of those things that makes you want to throw heavy objects at people. My first real Tuba was a BBb Besson New Standard compensator and that instrument is in daily use (not with myself though!!) even to this day and hasn't missed a beat and still sounds better than it's more modern competition. My main cornet is a 1968 Besson International that plays the pants off everything else I've tried so far. When I was playing regularly in brass bands B&H instruments were the benchmark because they were great instruments and everybody from the 3rd cornet to the eupho player wanted one (OK, maybe not the soprano player). How can a company go from that to this other than through mind numbing incompetence?

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How can a company go from that to this other than through mind numbing incompetence?
There is a lot more to B&H/Besson's collapse than what is in the article - I expect a great deal of it will come out eventually. The incompetence was simply astonishing.

Just for fun (and with that article as a reference guide) does anyone fancy a guess at how many years during B&H/Besson's instrument making the company made a profit on their brass instruments?

It is a shame to see a company like that fold, but the instruments have been going downhill in quality for about 25 years - in many ways it was a relief when it finally happened.
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Mike,

I hear you and it will be informative (and perhaps instructive) when the whole story does come out. It remains a fact, though, that many of B&Hs competitors managed to make reasonable instruments over that period of time and make a profit. We also shouldn't forget that, as a company, they had an enviable franchise in the 70s. It wasn't just bad luck.

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I can tell you that I have had no end of trouble with the Besson cornets I use in the Brass Band I run in NYC. Our new Yamahas have ben a marked improvement.

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The strange thing is that 20+ years ago Besson could make good cornetslike the imternational and the original sovereign.

The newer ones didn't even play in tune properly so they fitted the "revolutionary" main slide trigger so you could manually tune all the notes.

I think that was the point when the wool fell from a lot of players eyes where it had previously been pulled over.
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