C Trumpet

Heavens2kadonka · 07-10-2005, 07:56 PM

TM Search didnt pull any topics like this up (I'm sure this question has popped up, but my dial up is awful). I have recently been talked into looking for a C trumpet for transposition work. Decided I will postpone two of my projects (The Bach Bb Frankenhorn and my Monette Prana Piece) to focus on this.

(Why can't there be an "adopt a trumpeter" program?

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Heres the question! Whats the best horn I can get for...

$500.00 - $1000.00?
$1,000.00 - $2,000.00?
$(*Boutique level cost*)?

I don't have any interest in cutting down one of my Bbs, so I'm just interested in new or used or vintage trumpets that have been in the key of C their entire life..

I've heard one of the best low-cost C's out there right now is the B&S. I am actually considering this horn strongly, though I would have to test it first.

Van (Again, sorry if I am repeating an old question)

miles71 · 07-10-2005, 08:01 PM

I play a Xeno 8445G C horn and I am very happy with it. The Xenos are well made, play very evenly, and I think have a great tone color. Plus I paid about 1100.00 for it new.

BigBadWolf · 07-10-2005, 08:05 PM

$500-$1000 - Used Bach 229
$1000-$2000 - New Bach 229
$2000 + - Customised Bach 229

Heavens2kadonka · 07-10-2005, 08:23 PM

Quote:

$500-$1000 - Used Bach 229
$1000-$2000 - New Bach 229
$2000 + - Customised Bach 229

The Bach C DOES have an excellent sound, but its pretty much the only C I've ever heard (That *does* say something, though)!

I'm thinking I will be able to pay for something between $500.00 to POSSIBLY $1200.00. Depends on the hours of overtime I can pull at work.....

Hmmm, noticed the Stomvi Elite C being sold on sale through WWBW for $1600.00...........

Van

Double_G · 07-10-2005, 08:26 PM

There wa a guy on here the other day that had a bad experience with WWBW. I don't knowif you heard about it, but his "B stock" horns he ordered were mutilated when he recieved them. I would go see any horn that I buy Van. Seriously, some people you just can't trust these days. Not saying WWBW is a bad company, but I would go check out the horn anywhere I would buy one.

jcstites · 07-10-2005, 09:49 PM

I see your from TN. me too (johnson city)

I would just get a used bach, doesnt ahve to be in perfect shape, then drive down to blackburn and get a leadpipe, and if you ahve the extra $ the tuning slide. it totally changed my bach from a decent bach to a great one...

Heavens2kadonka · 07-10-2005, 10:22 PM

Y'know, there is a good chance I'll do that.

At the very least, I'll find a 229 valve body, and go from there. A Blackburn pipe, and a copper or gold brass C bell. Heavy caps.

Or whatever presents itself. I'll find a way.

Van

san antonio horn · 07-10-2005, 10:26 PM

There is a stomve C on ebay right now...starting bid $600. My question is what about horns that were designed to play in both C and Bb.? I think almost everyone made one at one time or another.

trumpet blower88 · 07-10-2005, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by san antonio horn

There is a stomve C on ebay right now...starting bid $600. My question is what about horns that were designed to play in both C and Bb.? I think almost everyone made one at one time or another.

This was mentioned in another post somewhere. What tends to happen is that one key will fall into tune very easily, but the other key will have a more difficult time keeping in tune. For example most Eb/D trumpets tune easier when playing with the Eb set up rather than the D.
I would guess that most trumpets that are C/Bb probably play better in the key of C, because the main body is primaraly built for C, but then adding the extra tubing and longer slides makes it Bb. But I would guess the tuneing would be more difficult.

Double_G · 07-11-2005, 12:00 AM

Get NYTC to build you a C trumpet...that should only cost, oh, $3,000-4,000 bucks lol.

07-10-2005, 07:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,283	C Trumpet TM Search didnt pull any topics like this up (I'm sure this question has popped up, but my dial up is awful). I have recently been talked into looking for a C trumpet for transposition work. Decided I will postpone two of my projects (The Bach Bb Frankenhorn and my Monette Prana Piece) to focus on this. (Why can't there be an "adopt a trumpeter" program? ) --------------------------------------- Heres the question! Whats the best horn I can get for... $500.00 - $1000.00? $1,000.00 - $2,000.00? $(Boutique level cost)? I don't have any interest in cutting down one of my Bbs, so I'm just interested in new or used or vintage trumpets that have been in the key of C their entire life.. I've heard one of the best low-cost C's out there right now is the B&S. I am actually considering this horn strongly, though I would have to test it first. Van (Again, sorry if I am repeating an old question) __________________ Stage 1 California Light '94 Bach Strad 37 1900 Eb Cornet LOUD Steve Patrick 10 1/2 C LOUD LM93

07-10-2005, 08:01 PM	#2 (permalink)
miles71 Piano User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Maryland Posts: 472	I play a Xeno 8445G C horn and I am very happy with it. The Xenos are well made, play very evenly, and I think have a great tone color. Plus I paid about 1100.00 for it new. __________________ NYTC Stage 1 Endorsing Artist www.domenicomusic.com

07-10-2005, 08:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
Double_G Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Gordonsville, TN Posts: 195	There wa a guy on here the other day that had a bad experience with WWBW. I don't knowif you heard about it, but his "B stock" horns he ordered were mutilated when he recieved them. I would go see any horn that I buy Van. Seriously, some people you just can't trust these days. Not saying WWBW is a bad company, but I would go check out the horn anywhere I would buy one. __________________ King Silver Flair 2055S Getzen 770 SG Gold Series Bundy Series II cornet Music is a more potent instrument than any other for education. -Plato

07-10-2005, 09:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
jcstites Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Tallahassee, FL Posts: 763	I see your from TN. me too (johnson city) I would just get a used bach, doesnt ahve to be in perfect shape, then drive down to blackburn and get a leadpipe, and if you ahve the extra $ the tuning slide. it totally changed my bach from a decent bach to a great one... __________________ www.jonathanstites.com

07-10-2005, 10:22 PM	#7 (permalink)
Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,283	Y'know, there is a good chance I'll do that. At the very least, I'll find a 229 valve body, and go from there. A Blackburn pipe, and a copper or gold brass C bell. Heavy caps. Or whatever presents itself. I'll find a way. Van __________________ Stage 1 California Light '94 Bach Strad 37 1900 Eb Cornet LOUD Steve Patrick 10 1/2 C LOUD LM93

07-10-2005, 08:05 PM	#3 (permalink)
BigBadWolf Piano User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 312	$500-$1000 - Used Bach 229 $1000-$2000 - New Bach 229 $2000 + - Customised Bach 229

07-10-2005, 10:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
san antonio horn New Friend Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san antonio, tx Posts: 17	C trumpet There is a stomve C on ebay right now...starting bid $600. My question is what about horns that were designed to play in both C and Bb.? I think almost everyone made one at one time or another. __________________ Currently teaching lessons in South Central, Texas...(San Antonio) sanantoniohorn@gmail.com

07-11-2005, 12:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
Double_G Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Gordonsville, TN Posts: 195	Get NYTC to build you a C trumpet...that should only cost, oh, $3,000-4,000 bucks lol. __________________ King Silver Flair 2055S Getzen 770 SG Gold Series Bundy Series II cornet Music is a more potent instrument than any other for education. -Plato

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