Calicchio tuning slide pull distance

dburdett · 02-19-2007, 07:58 PM

Calicchio owners! How far out do you pull the main tuning slide to be at A=440? My R37 needs about 7/8ths of an inch. This seems a bit much. What do you think?

Brekelefuw · 02-20-2007, 12:47 AM

You are probably playing above center. Try adjusting yourself and not the slide. Aim for the tone that is richest in overtones.

bbswingface · 02-20-2007, 08:00 PM

Try measuring your leadpipe and then give them a call to see what the actual length should be. I have a friend that had a problem with pulling out over an inch and he found out that the leadpipe was the wrong length!
They replaced it for him, no charge.
Good luck.
BTW it could also be a gap or backbore mismatch with the horn.
I'm sure that the gap is different from the Yamaha's or Bach's you are playing on.
If you are using a Reeves with interchangeable sleeves try a few (my friend uses a 2 1/2 sleeve and seems to work for him)

TrentAustin · 02-20-2007, 08:06 PM

Stop playing so sharp Burdett... geez...

If the horn responds evenly and doesn't have a super "dead" sound I wouldn't worry about it.

Does the horn have a PVA?

How about Gap alignment with your mouthpiece?

Has it been cleaned recently? One horn I had played so poorly that when I took it get cleaned someone found a wad of paper that was lodged into the bell tube.
-T

waayne · 12-19-2007, 09:56 PM

Yeah, I have a 2/2 that needs about 7/8ths inch pull on tuning slide for a 440 A. I wrote Dave at the Tulsa plant and he replied that Calicchios traditionally have been sharp horns; that if the horn was in tune with itself, then just pull the slide out or use a deeper mp cup.

Patric_Bernard · 12-20-2007, 09:28 AM

7/8ths of an inch really isn't THAT much... now two or three inches is alot... but not even an inch.. thats not bad at all guys.

Dave Mickley · 12-20-2007, 10:54 AM

I wouldn't worry about how far the slide needs pulled out if the horn plays in tune. the more I practice the less I need to pull out. the warmer it is and the more tired I am the more I need to pull out. the main point is "are you in tune through out the scale and up" Dave

Patric_Bernard · 12-20-2007, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Mickley

I wouldn't worry about how far the slide needs pulled out if the horn plays in tune. the more I practice the less I need to pull out. the warmer it is and the more tired I am the more I need to pull out. the main point is "are you in tune through out the scale and up" Dave

Point proven lol... spoken like a... uh... trumpet player?

brassmojo · 12-24-2007, 04:32 PM

I have a Calicchio 1s7. I have to pull the slide out nearly and inch. It seems to be the nature of the beast.

3C

02-19-2007, 07:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
dburdett New Friend Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Boston MA Posts: 40	Calicchio tuning slide pull distance Calicchio owners! How far out do you pull the main tuning slide to be at A=440? My R37 needs about 7/8ths of an inch. This seems a bit much. What do you think? __________________ Benge MLP B flat,Bach 229 LB H pipe , Bach 189 E Flat, Yamaha 635T Flugel, Yamaha Custom Piccolo, Reeves 43S

02-20-2007, 12:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
Brekelefuw Forte User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,026	Re: Calicchio tuning slide pull distance You are probably playing above center. Try adjusting yourself and not the slide. Aim for the tone that is richest in overtones.

02-20-2007, 08:00 PM	#3 (permalink)
bbswingface New Friend Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 5	Re: Calicchio tuning slide pull distance Try measuring your leadpipe and then give them a call to see what the actual length should be. I have a friend that had a problem with pulling out over an inch and he found out that the leadpipe was the wrong length! They replaced it for him, no charge. Good luck. BTW it could also be a gap or backbore mismatch with the horn. I'm sure that the gap is different from the Yamaha's or Bach's you are playing on. If you are using a Reeves with interchangeable sleeves try a few (my friend uses a 2 1/2 sleeve and seems to work for him) Last edited by bbswingface; 02-20-2007 at 08:12 PM.

02-20-2007, 08:06 PM	#4 (permalink)
TrentAustin Moderator Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 1,750	Re: Calicchio tuning slide pull distance Stop playing so sharp Burdett... geez... If the horn responds evenly and doesn't have a super "dead" sound I wouldn't worry about it. Does the horn have a PVA? How about Gap alignment with your mouthpiece? Has it been cleaned recently? One horn I had played so poorly that when I took it get cleaned someone found a wad of paper that was lodged into the bell tube. -T __________________ Trent Austin http://www.trentaustin.com http://www.onlinejazzimprovisation.com Yamaha EM Yamaha Chicago C 1939 Martin Handcraft Imperial (restored at www.osmun.com) Olds Clark Terry Flugel Schilke P5-4 Morrison MDT (coming SOON!) Other horns fs in Marketplace Wedge SST mpcs

12-19-2007, 09:56 PM	#5 (permalink)
waayne New Friend Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1	Re: Calicchio tuning slide pull distance Yeah, I have a 2/2 that needs about 7/8ths inch pull on tuning slide for a 440 A. I wrote Dave at the Tulsa plant and he replied that Calicchios traditionally have been sharp horns; that if the horn was in tune with itself, then just pull the slide out or use a deeper mp cup.

12-20-2007, 09:28 AM	#6 (permalink)
Patric_Bernard Forte User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: California Posts: 1,933	Re: Calicchio tuning slide pull distance 7/8ths of an inch really isn't THAT much... now two or three inches is alot... but not even an inch.. thats not bad at all guys. __________________ Bach Omega Bach 3C Bach 3c Megatone Berkley Cornet Bach Cornet 3C Teachers Arbans book, Clarke Studies Book. Nick Drozdoff's online lessons and words of wisdom through email.

12-20-2007, 10:54 AM	#7 (permalink)
Dave Mickley Piano User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Indianapolis Posts: 408	Re: Calicchio tuning slide pull distance I wouldn't worry about how far the slide needs pulled out if the horn plays in tune. the more I practice the less I need to pull out. the warmer it is and the more tired I am the more I need to pull out. the main point is "are you in tune through out the scale and up" Dave __________________ formerly known as old geezer Dave C7 Yam. 231 Fl. 15383 King Master Cornet 295628 Weril Cornet Lo 7535

12-24-2007, 04:32 PM	#9 (permalink)
brassmojo Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 62	Re: Calicchio tuning slide pull distance I have a Calicchio 1s7. I have to pull the slide out nearly and inch. It seems to be the nature of the beast. 3C

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