Cheap Flugelhorn?

Adam Smith · 01-16-2007, 10:45 PM

I need a cheap flugelhorn for jazz band. Not so cheap it dosent play well but I dont want to spen more than around $500-600. Does anyone have any recomendations?

gzent · 01-16-2007, 10:56 PM

Get a used Jupiter that's a couple years old. I did for a little over $400 and it plays just fine.

Adam-PL · 01-17-2007, 01:27 AM

Try a B&S 3145G or 3145S
I bought the 3145S new for 695euro in Musik-Bertram in Freiburg (Germany).
It is perfect for all my flugelhorn need's.

Mark Bradley · 01-17-2007, 07:31 AM

I have a Jupiter 846RL that's excellent for the money. Great valves unlike the older models and well built, a lot of fun to play with good intonation. I've had a few high end flugels (Calicchio, Conn V1, Kanstul-- all very fine horns by the way) but for the little use they got I just couldn't justify spending that much. Chuck Levin's sells this Jupiter for $699 brand spankin' new (unless they've recently gone up). A real bargain, a clone of the old Yamaha 631 flugels. I tend to think of the Jupiter 846RL as the modern day Cousenons, which were a cheap and overlooked model in their day (now classics). Just make sure you get the rose brass model with the 3rd valve trigger 846RL).

Tootsall · 01-17-2007, 09:50 AM

Ditto the above except that I went even cheaper and got the Jupiter 846L (no 3rd trigger). For the amount of playing I give it the lack of the trigger isn't all that bad; nothing you can't lip down and really it's only the C# and D that need a bit of extra attention.

Adam Smith · 01-17-2007, 08:39 PM

Thanks for all your advice... but it looks like the cheapest jupiter i can find is 750 and I dont have enough. Does anyone have any experience with any flugelhorns costing around 500? Are there even any horns around that price worth a flip or should i just save up a bit more and get a jupiter?

Tootsall · 01-17-2007, 09:09 PM

$750 seems a bit high to me, especially for the 846L. Possibly it's OK for the RL model. Perhaps you can find a 2nd hand one?

Adam Smith · 01-17-2007, 10:06 PM

Pro winds is selling the 846L for $709. Do you think it is worth that?

Tootsall · 01-18-2007, 10:06 AM

Given the exchange rate (I bought mine in Canada about 7 years back for $800) it seems to be pretty fair. I have read on one of the UK websites that they like one of the Blessing models also for a student level instrument. You might check them out but I have no experience on them myself. I suppose a used Getzen isn't part of your consideration?

rowuk · 01-18-2007, 11:00 AM

I got a 4-valved Getzen flugel for about $800 on eBay. That was a great deal.

01-16-2007, 10:45 PM	#1 (permalink)
Adam Smith Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MTSU Brand: Harrelson Posts: 186	Cheap Flugelhorn? I need a cheap flugelhorn for jazz band. Not so cheap it dosent play well but I dont want to spen more than around $500-600. Does anyone have any recomendations?

01-16-2007, 10:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
gzent Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rochester, MN Brand: Forza Posts: 1,515	Re: Cheap Flugelhorn? Get a used Jupiter that's a couple years old. I did for a little over $400 and it plays just fine.
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01-17-2007, 01:27 AM	#3 (permalink)
Adam-PL New Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Gdynia - Poland Brand: Schilke Posts: 27	Re: Cheap Flugelhorn? Try a B&S 3145G or 3145S I bought the 3145S new for 695euro in Musik-Bertram in Freiburg (Germany). It is perfect for all my flugelhorn need's.

01-17-2007, 07:31 AM	#4 (permalink)
Mark Bradley Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Kansas City Brand: Allora/GR64S-B Posts: 112	Re: Cheap Flugelhorn? I have a Jupiter 846RL that's excellent for the money. Great valves unlike the older models and well built, a lot of fun to play with good intonation. I've had a few high end flugels (Calicchio, Conn V1, Kanstul-- all very fine horns by the way) but for the little use they got I just couldn't justify spending that much. Chuck Levin's sells this Jupiter for $699 brand spankin' new (unless they've recently gone up). A real bargain, a clone of the old Yamaha 631 flugels. I tend to think of the Jupiter 846RL as the modern day Cousenons, which were a cheap and overlooked model in their day (now classics). Just make sure you get the rose brass model with the 3rd valve trigger 846RL). Last edited by Mark Bradley : 01-17-2007 at 07:34 AM.

01-17-2007, 09:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Re: Cheap Flugelhorn? Ditto the above except that I went even cheaper and got the Jupiter 846L (no 3rd trigger). For the amount of playing I give it the lack of the trigger isn't all that bad; nothing you can't lip down and really it's only the C# and D that need a bit of extra attention.

01-17-2007, 08:39 PM	#6 (permalink)
Adam Smith Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MTSU Brand: Harrelson Posts: 186	Re: Cheap Flugelhorn? Thanks for all your advice... but it looks like the cheapest jupiter i can find is 750 and I dont have enough. Does anyone have any experience with any flugelhorns costing around 500? Are there even any horns around that price worth a flip or should i just save up a bit more and get a jupiter?

01-17-2007, 09:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Re: Cheap Flugelhorn? $750 seems a bit high to me, especially for the 846L. Possibly it's OK for the RL model. Perhaps you can find a 2nd hand one?

01-17-2007, 10:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
Adam Smith Pianissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MTSU Brand: Harrelson Posts: 186	Re: Cheap Flugelhorn? Pro winds is selling the 846L for $709. Do you think it is worth that?

01-18-2007, 10:06 AM	#9 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Re: Cheap Flugelhorn? Given the exchange rate (I bought mine in Canada about 7 years back for $800) it seems to be pretty fair. I have read on one of the UK websites that they like one of the Blessing models also for a student level instrument. You might check them out but I have no experience on them myself. I suppose a used Getzen isn't part of your consideration?

01-18-2007, 11:00 AM	#10 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Brand: Nat, Piston, Rotary Posts: 3,917	Re: Cheap Flugelhorn? I got a 4-valved Getzen flugel for about $800 on eBay. That was a great deal.
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