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| Forte User | Re: Decent, Inexpensive Horns Olds Ambassadors, Barrington BRG101, King 600 series, Holton 600 series, Besson 609.
__________________ Dave Rafferty Lemar Trumpet (peashooter-Conn?) Lyrical Trumpet (Tokan) Besson 609 Trumpet 1955-60 Besson 8-10 Trumpet 1948 Besson cornet 1946 King Master Cornet www.kalamazooconcertband.org |
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| Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Dubai, UAE
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![]() | Re: Decent, Inexpensive Horns The English Besson trumpets (post war) like this one: Besson Trumpet 2-20 - eBay (item 170303012709 end time Feb-25-09 08:07:01 PST) Please note, not 'Bessons'. These are cheap Indian knock-offs. There are various different models some with numbers some with English town names but all are well made and even if they've had a hard life don't take a whole lot to fix. Regards, Trevor |
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| Forte User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Heart of Dixie
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![]() | Re: Decent, Inexpensive Horns Conns from the 50's and 60's; Olds from the 50's through the 70's. Even the student models (Directors and Ambassadors) are pretty good horns, especially for the student or casual player.
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| New Friend Join Date: Mar 2008
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![]() | Re: Decent, Inexpensive Horns My vote's for the Olds Ambassador, I still keep my 35-year-old around. Great, classic brass sound, remarkably good valves, and a general heft that withstand nearly any mistreatment. It remains my backup, and it would be the candidate to accompany me anywhere that I'd fear for my main axe. -Ed |
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| Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: NJ
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![]() | Re: Decent, Inexpensive Horns I picked up a 1952 Holton Model 29 Cornet, in remarkably good condition, for under $100 on eBay -- including shipping charges. It was considered a pro horn in its day. I'm very pleased with it. |
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| Piano User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: wasilla alaska
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![]() | Re: Decent, Inexpensive Horns Quote:
great horns in "America" for the last 50 plus years ??? is worth a mention !
__________________ trumpets getzen artist sterling silver besson international 800 usa benge 5x cornets getzen 80 power bore getzen tone balance getzen copra temp getzen 580 s capri 53 olds super 54 olds recording Last edited by daniel starz; 02-24-2009 at 06:12 AM. Reason: opps | |
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| Piano User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Phoenixville, PA, USA
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![]() | Re: Decent, Inexpensive Horns I only played it a few minutes, but I thought the Getzen 590 was a good student horn. It slotted like a trolley car, which would be annoying for a professional jazz player but great for a beginner. It had a nice, moderately dark sound that should blend pretty well.
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| Piano User Join Date: Jan 2009
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![]() | Re: Decent, Inexpensive Horns What about the Kanstul-made Besson BE-609, BE-709? True, they're not being made any more, but I've heard nothing but great things about the BE-709 and it's widely available new being closed out for $299. I'll know Thursday afternoon what I think of it. Update: It arrived a day early, but it's going back tomorrow. Only for a replacement, same model. I insist on being the first to put dents in any new horn I receive, and someone in the warehouse beat me to it. Other than that, I'm impressed. It's still a little tight, but has a good tone, is open and easy to play, has good intonation, pretty responsive. Valves are quick and fairly light, considering that it needed oil badly when received. For about $300, I think it would be hard to beat this in a new or used instrument. It feels a lot closer to a pro horn than it should for that price. Apparently there are still quite a few in the warehouse, so don't blame me if you miss out. Look at it this way: for $300, it should be anywhere from 20% to 33% as good as a vintage Olds Recording. It comes a good bit closer than that.
__________________ Vintage Olds and Reynolds, yes sir, yes sir, one gazoo full. Calicchios, Besson, Kanstul Bessons, Selmers, etc. F.E. forgive me, even a Bach Strad (but I like the others much better) Last edited by ChopsGone; 02-25-2009 at 07:26 PM. |
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| Forte User | Re: Decent, Inexpensive Horns Quote:
Must reiterate my Barrington trumpet as a decent, inexpensive instrument Also, I have acquired a 48 or so Besson cornet that is a very good instrument. Also would recommend the 8-10 (used to have one) and 2-20 cornets along with the trumpets. Must be careful to verify the valves are good though. Hard to get replacement pistons.
__________________ Dave Rafferty Lemar Trumpet (peashooter-Conn?) Lyrical Trumpet (Tokan) Besson 609 Trumpet 1955-60 Besson 8-10 Trumpet 1948 Besson cornet 1946 King Master Cornet www.kalamazooconcertband.org | |
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| Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rochester, MN
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![]() | Re: Decent, Inexpensive Horns Any horn made in the Kanstul shop will be high quality, whether a Kanstul, Besson, Zeus, etc. If someone can pick one up cheap then they can't really go wrong.
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