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Old 04-28-2005, 05:44 PM   #1 (permalink)
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does the phaeton play as good as it looks

i need info on the phaeton trumpet. after looking at it my first thought was that it was "look good" horn. is this trumpet professional quality? the prices seem to be very nice. the look and the price attract me to it i was just wondering about the quality.
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Old 04-28-2005, 09:20 PM   #2 (permalink)
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The phaeton is a VERY VERY good horn, and is the third best horn I've ever played. I rate it behind my Kanstul 1503, and of course the NY Stage One that some *** bag is playing for free in the Nevada area.

The sound is VERY warm, dark. The horn feels most at home in a chapel or a room with very intimate acoustics. It may also affect your register. I found I could really ring out a high A and B well with this horn, which I found VERY satisfying.

The valve caps are very VERY recessed, and the valve springs are stronger that normal. The caps give a suction effect, and the springs give the necessary force back to give VERY good action to the valves. I would rate the action as equal to a good Getzen block. Just don't have a cloth near the valves while using them. The suction will stick the valves.

The horn is not built for pressure playing. Jamming the mp in and blowing will kill the sound.

This horn is really good in showing inconsistencies in your playing. I found my lower register needed MUCH more work than I thought....

The horn is balanced by the bracing, meaning the horn feels extremely comfortable in your hands.

Slide action is about average. The Phaeton I tested had a misaligned main slide, though. This may bias my opinion on them..

Its a really solid horn, at a very attractive price. I could see this horn sold for around 2000.00, truthfully.

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Old 04-29-2005, 12:25 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I play the Phaeton-2030 with a Monette b6 mpc and I am very happy with it. . I would say try one out and see how it fits into your style of playing. Good Luck
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Old 04-29-2005, 12:37 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I'll take this opportunity to add a few.

One thing I noticed about the Phaeton was how perfect you had to be physically. You couldn't use too much pressure, your posture had to be good, air dynamics solid. Also, the lower register was way different from any other horn I'd ever played. Most of the time we tend to force the air through to punch out the low stuff. On the Phaeton, you have to lay back and let the air flow, otherwise you're gonna get one heck of a crappy tone. The tone on the horn is just simply amazing. I loved it. But like Van said, if you start grinding away, you're gonna be rewarded with sore chops and a really bad tone quality. As far as using it for legit stuff is concerned, I definitely think it is a possibility, and a steal considering what other horns of comparable quality cost.
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Sorry guys, I couldn't help it.

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for those of you going or , those happen to be Special Edition Phaetons available through NYTC. And for those of you who see a strange resemblance to another popular horn around here, there's a very good reason for that.
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Awww, I was wanting people to wonder for a while.

I love those finger rings and braces....

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Old 04-29-2005, 06:04 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Hi there,

How much are those special editions??? Is there any opportunity to play test any of the NYTC horns here in the UK?

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Old 04-29-2005, 10:17 AM   #9 (permalink)
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So the Eclipse factory is making those horns?
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Old 04-29-2005, 10:43 AM   #10 (permalink)
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They do look amazingly like the Eclipse trumpets, sans the tuning slide on the bell.
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