DubbaCTrumpetMSU

Okay, so, I have a question for you Eclipse owners/players/pros out there. I am looking at perhaps getting an Eclipse, but I have a few questions about the setup I should go for. I am playing on a rimless copper bell right now, which I like--but I don't think I'd want the LC model-I am considering having Leigh make me the first ever copper Solar model, however, I'm keeping my options open. I like the darker sound for the solo work, and whatnot...but I play everything. I play solo, band/ensemble, chamber, lead jazz...I need a chameleon that can do it all, and many have pointed me to the MR bell. Any of you have this particular one, or the LC, and feel like sharing??? Either way, I'm going with scratch gold, and a few polished accents(receiver, caps/buttons, maybe inside bell)

Russ

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Solar Bell

Russ,

I'm not sure I would go with the LC, (Large Copper) either.

Many guys really like the MR, it is the best selling Eclipse model.

The MR would probably be a great choice.

However if you like your rimless copper bell on your NYTC horn, I would go ahead and have leigh make the copper Solar Bell. He can make it in either medium or large.

Scratched gold is a great finish, Eclipse is known for that finish.

I play a scratched gold MS with bright gold trim. (Yes, get the inner bell in bright)

Whatever you go with, you will be very satisfied with it.

BTW- I read that someone doesn't see much of a difference between the MR, medium red bell, and the MY, medium yellow bell.

In my opinion there is a huge difference. While I do not like the MR for lead work, the MY is fantastic for that. At least for the way I play and my mouthpiece.


-cw-

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rowuk

Russ,
I don't play Eclipse, but have found that the finest horns respond very well to changes in mouthpiece depth. You may want to consider getting your present rim with a deep vee-cup, deep bowl and shallow bowl.

Try that with your present horn, you may discover that buying a "super dark" horn is not the best decision.

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DubbaCTrumpetMSU

Rowuk,
That's kind of what is making me think that the MR would be a better choice. More of an 'all around' horn, and make the changes I need with the leadpipe(I'm probably getting the interchangeable leadpipe option), and with mouthpiece choice. Especially since my lead piece is a Wedge, I am thinking of ordering the 3B or 3C top...matched rims and backbore, but the cup depth would be the difference. Everyone so far has recommended the MR, since I'll be playing so many types of music. Maybe it's time to change from copper.

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Bb-Eclipse MR-Scratch Gold, polished accents
D/Eb-Blessing...
GR 66C*, Wedge 3E...still searching for a different legit piece...

Recordings of my Senior recital-Comments greatly appreciated!!

www.myspace.com/russrobinson021906

simonds

Hi Russ,

Like Chuck said, whatever you go for you'll be very pleased with it. A lot of people (including myself) seem to be going for the interchangeable leadpipe which keeps your options open. The leadpipes do make quite a difference to the sound. I chose a solar bell which is bright but if I want a darker sound I can always play flugel. If you can't get over and try a bunch of horns, you might want to talk/email Noel Langley as he has played just about every Eclipse and probably knows more about them than anyone else! But they're all fantastic trumpets (and flugels)!

Cheers,

Simon

JustinSmith

Hey Russ,

Why do you want to sell the NYTC horn now?

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DubbaCTrumpetMSU

Justin, actually, I'm selling it for some very personal reasons. Long story. Let's just say it involves a broken engagement and things of that nature. Trust me, nothing against NYTC, that's for sure, if that's what you're thinking.

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You don't use people to make music--you use music to make people.
Bb-Eclipse MR-Scratch Gold, polished accents
D/Eb-Blessing...
GR 66C*, Wedge 3E...still searching for a different legit piece...

Recordings of my Senior recital-Comments greatly appreciated!!

www.myspace.com/russrobinson021906

miles71

You might want to wait and check out the Signature line coming into NYTC soon. The Possegger made Stage 1's play fantastic. They have the leadpipe option you are talking about too.
TD

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DubbaCTrumpetMSU

I had considered that also, Tony, but the price is a little bit much for my budget. I wouldn't be able to raise quite that much for probably another year.

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You don't use people to make music--you use music to make people.
Bb-Eclipse MR-Scratch Gold, polished accents
D/Eb-Blessing...
GR 66C*, Wedge 3E...still searching for a different legit piece...

Recordings of my Senior recital-Comments greatly appreciated!!

www.myspace.com/russrobinson021906

wilcox96

Just a thought (and the first thing I thought about when I read your comments)....that's an awful lot to be tinkering around with at the same time.

There's a reason horns are put together with matching parts. Not saying this couldn't (and "isn't") a cool thing... but it doesn't mean a cool concept is necessarily good to do. It could (stress - "could" ) screw things up. Sure..could be magical....it's just a lot for a novice (you are not a horn designer...that's what I mean) to be tinkering with.

I don't care what brand/model you end up with Russ... find one off the wall of a restaurant...whatever works. I just hope you can - through your own discovery or with someone's help - settle down on something. I realize your head's a little out of sorts with what all you've been through. Just wouldn't want to see you get more frustrated with horn choices. Close your eyes...play some nice music...practice to play beautifully.

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