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Old 02-27-2007, 09:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Eclipse Piccolo and Alex Yates

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I cannot understand why ALEX is still waiting for an ECLIPSE piccolo when it has been out there for years ...Myself I tested it almost 2 years ago at the Royal Northern College of Music...You don't believe? Take that:

TESTBERICHT AUS DER FACHZEITSCHRIFT BRASS HERALD
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[color=red]"Eclipse" Piccolo Trumpet[color=red]
-Review for Brass Herald by Andy Crowley
I recently spent some time with the Austrian trumpet designer Karl Schagerl at the Royal College of Music, demonstrating his rotary trumpets to some students, and I found him to be highly proud, enthusiastic and open minded about his instruments (these were fantastic). He has since sent two piston valve trumpets for me to try; a piccolo trumpet in Bb/A, plus a large bore Bb trumpet, which I will review at a later date.

The “ECLIPSE” [color=red]design is based on the well-known Schilke P5-4 that revolutionised piccolo trumpet playing in 1971, also copied by companies such as Yamaha, Stomvi and Kanstul. The Schagerl bore size is fractionally smaller by 0.010” but actually makes a warmer sound than the Schilke and is easy, agile and nearly perfectly in tune on the 1st valve D’s and open E’s (in Bb and A). Most impressive though is the workmanship and finish, as I have owned quite a selection of piccolos in my career and this model is by far the nicest to hold! No annoying third slide water key getting in the way, a very effective third valve ring (with a stay to stop the slide falling off), very air tight but free-moving slides, positive gliding valves and beautifully finished in silver. Karl has thought of everything that a professional or amateur could want, right down to rubber slide rings to keep the mechanics quiet plus the option to use either a cornet shank or trumpet mouthpiece. It is also worth mentioning that this company produces a good range of accessories to keep your new purchase in tip-top condition. Very classy indeed and for around £1650, great value; I now have to find a way to justify to my wife why I need yet another trumpet….

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Bb/A Piccolo Trumpet
Yellow-brass bell
Bell : 101 mm (4")
Bore: 11,2mm (0.440")
Finish: Silver plated or gold plated
with Leadpipe A & Bb, available with Trumpet Shank or with Cornet Shank

Price €2.750,00

Link: Schagerl Austria Meisterinstrumente

I do agree that it is a very nice horn...ECLIPSE or Schagerl? or may be both?
Well, the Spada I just ordered is just simple and plain Spada ...no one else does them...

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Old 02-27-2007, 09:16 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Eclipse Piccolo and Alex Yates

Nick....

That piccolo is an "Eclipse" model by Schagerl.

It is a Schagerl brand piccolo trumpet and the model is called Eclipse. It has nothing to do with Eclipse Trumpets, U.K.

Leigh is working on an Eclipse brand piccolo trumpet.

It is in the testing stage right now.

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Old 02-27-2007, 09:59 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Eclipse Piccolo and Alex Yates

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Nick....

That piccolo is an "Eclipse" model by Schagerl.

It is a Schagerl brand piccolo trumpet and the model is called Eclipse. It has nothing to do with Eclipse Trumpets, U.K.


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Chuck,

I know that very well, but wanted to tease you a bit, Eclipse guys and especially girls

I found very funny the fact, that Alex put a horn in her signature before even its release, so I could not resist teasing her. Probably I should put some funny faces in the message so this can be obvious...I had the Schagerl Piccolo in my hands so I know exactly what was it...
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:09 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Eclipse Piccolo and Alex Yates

I wonder why Schagerl called it that?
Could it have had anything to do with the rather well known manufacturer of incredible trumpets?

Conspiracy theorists are keen to find out
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Chuck,

I know that very well, but wnated to tease you bit, Eclipse guys and especially girls

I found very funny the fact, that Alex put a horn in her signature before even its release, so I could not resist teasing her. Probably I should put some funny faces in the message so this can be obvious...I had the Schagerl Piccolo in my hands so I know exactly what was it...
Hee, hee Nick. You got this girl! LOL.

Yeah, I have been test playing the Eclipse piccolo prototypes and cannot wait to get one in my hands permanently. The prototype I played I would be willing to take AS IS rather than continue on with my Yamaha Custom long bell. THAT is how wonderfully it plays. Ah, but wait 'til the day that I have a new one to play. 'Twill be heaven!
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Old 02-27-2007, 10:41 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Hee, hee Nick. You got this girl! LOL.

Yeah, I have been test playing the Eclipse piccolo prototypes and cannot wait to get one in my hands permanently. The prototype I played I would be willing to take AS IS rather than continue on with my Yamaha Custom long bell. THAT is how wonderfully it plays. Ah, but wait 'til the day that I have a new one to play. 'Twill be heaven!
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Re: Eclipse Piccolo and Alex Yates

Alex,

Will the Eclipse Picc be a long bell?

Any word on the pricing?

Any tuning slide 'magic'?

I'm curious.

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Re: Eclipse Piccolo and Alex Yates

Dear Alex.............I feel your pain.
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Alex,

Will the Eclipse Picc be a long bell?

Any word on the pricing?

Any tuning slide 'magic'?

I'm curious.

Greg
If you look at the horngasm picture you can see one of the prototypes anchored on my forehead (the other is on PH's chest). They resemble the Yamaha Custom long bells/ Schilke in appearance. So, it is safe to say, "Yes, they are long bells". They will come with four leadpipes - two sets of A/Bb pipes; one set with trumpet receivers and the other set, cornet receivers. Other than that, I am not at liberty to discuss any details yet, truly. All in due time.
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Re: Eclipse Piccolo and Alex Yates

I thought that it may be useful to post the photo here so other people won't have to search on the Eclips contest threat like me...
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