Flugelhorns or Cornets in C?

gzent · 03-13-2007, 05:37 PM

Anyone here ever owned or even played a flugelhorn or cornet in the key of C?

Brekelefuw · 03-13-2007, 05:42 PM

I don't think they make flugels in C. I think there is an F flugel or something, but I have never seen one. I would guess that 98% of horn makers make flugels only in Bb

rowuk · 03-13-2007, 05:53 PM

I played a Besson C Cornet for a long time. The biggest problem is that too much of the repertoire starts in Eb, Ab or Db (or worse) and that is much less fun than F, Bb or Eb.
The sound was much lighter, it slotted like a trumpet and had an awesome pedal register. Playing Oboe solos on it was a dream. I ended up selling it to buy another horn that I really needed. I sort of miss it.
I have seen some rotary flugels in C. Never tried them out though. I'll make a point of it next time I see one.

NYTC · 03-13-2007, 05:54 PM

I have an Olds Cornet in C.
It was not in C originally,it is a conversion.
It does play OK.

Mikey · 03-13-2007, 05:54 PM

Schilke and Getzen make Cornets in C. They are both great horns.

gzent · 03-13-2007, 06:03 PM

I'm wanting to have a C horn for playing with my church choir on choral pieces that are just too mellow for trumpet, hence either a flugelhorn or a cornet with a very deep mouthpiece is what I want.

And don't give me that jazz about transposing, of course I can transpose!

I make up my part on the fly 99% of the time, usually, and don't want to waste energy transposing, I want to put it all into 'making the music' in the moment from my heart!

Greg

Richard Oliver · 03-13-2007, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NYTC

I have an Olds Cornet in C.
It was not in C originally,it is a conversion.
It does play OK.

Felix,

Tell us the story how you got started playing trumpet. What got you hooked, and what is it you dig about music and trumpets in particular even though we trumpet players make you crazy from time to time.

Richard

rowuk · 03-13-2007, 06:10 PM

A flugelhorn would be easier to cut down than a trumpet..................

NYTC · 03-13-2007, 06:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardwy

Felix,

Tell us the story how you got started playing trumpet. What got you hooked, and what is it you dig about music and trumpets in particular even though we trumpet players make you crazy from time to time.

Richard

Richard,
I'll email you directly on this.:)

Siegtrmpt · 03-13-2007, 06:42 PM

I've got a Bach "C" cornet. They've only made a handful of them over the years. The Mt. Vernon catalog says they're made with a .462 bore. I've seen them with the both the 238 and 239 bell. They play great and are particularly good for playing in church or playing solos with a choir. I understand the Getzen C cornet is pretty good and probably easier to obtain. The old Bach catalog only lists flugelhorns in B flat and low e flat and high e flat.

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gzent Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 1,515	Flugelhorns or Cornets in C? Anyone here ever owned or even played a flugelhorn or cornet in the key of C? __________________ Harmony and understanding Sympathy and trust abounding No more falsehoods or derisions Golden living dreams of visions Mystic crystal revalation And the mind's true liberation

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Brekelefuw Forte User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,026	Re: Flugelhorns or Cornets in C? I don't think they make flugels in C. I think there is an F flugel or something, but I have never seen one. I would guess that 98% of horn makers make flugels only in Bb

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rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,640	Re: Flugelhorns or Cornets in C? I played a Besson C Cornet for a long time. The biggest problem is that too much of the repertoire starts in Eb, Ab or Db (or worse) and that is much less fun than F, Bb or Eb. The sound was much lighter, it slotted like a trumpet and had an awesome pedal register. Playing Oboe solos on it was a dream. I ended up selling it to buy another horn that I really needed. I sort of miss it. I have seen some rotary flugels in C. Never tried them out though. I'll make a point of it next time I see one. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

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NYTC Forte User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Brooklyn,NY Posts: 1,077	Re: Flugelhorns or Cornets in C? I have an Olds Cornet in C. It was not in C originally,it is a conversion. It does play OK. __________________ www.NewYorkTrumpetCompany.com Stage 1 Trumpets

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Mikey Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,864	Re: Flugelhorns or Cornets in C? Schilke and Getzen make Cornets in C. They are both great horns.

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gzent Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 1,515	Re: Flugelhorns or Cornets in C? I'm wanting to have a C horn for playing with my church choir on choral pieces that are just too mellow for trumpet, hence either a flugelhorn or a cornet with a very deep mouthpiece is what I want. And don't give me that jazz about transposing, of course I can transpose! I make up my part on the fly 99% of the time, usually, and don't want to waste energy transposing, I want to put it all into 'making the music' in the moment from my heart! Greg __________________ Harmony and understanding Sympathy and trust abounding No more falsehoods or derisions Golden living dreams of visions Mystic crystal revalation And the mind's true liberation

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rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,640	Re: Flugelhorns or Cornets in C? A flugelhorn would be easier to cut down than a trumpet.................. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

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Siegtrmpt Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Virginia Posts: 554	Re: Flugelhorns or Cornets in C? I've got a Bach "C" cornet. They've only made a handful of them over the years. The Mt. Vernon catalog says they're made with a .462 bore. I've seen them with the both the 238 and 239 bell. They play great and are particularly good for playing in church or playing solos with a choir. I understand the Getzen C cornet is pretty good and probably easier to obtain. The old Bach catalog only lists flugelhorns in B flat and low e flat and high e flat. __________________ Bill S.- NY Bach 6, 38 Mt. Vernon 43 Bach "C" cornet, NY Bach trombone 6vii Monette mouthpieces

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