aspires

I have heard recordings of cornets that sound very mellow and fuzzy... like a flugel. I have a Yamaha 9E mpc that sounds how I like it in my Good ol' Coprion Director, but I can't get the same tone on my Olds Ambassador (for just $50, I had to try one!).

I can only afford a few hundred $ right now... looking for something comparable to the Coprion Director tone, but maybe a step up at least. Any suggestions of horn models/years to look for would be most appreciated.

rowuk

I think a real cornet has a clear not fuzzy sound. It also can have considerable "bite" if pushed hard. That is what makes it so suitable for soloists - an incredible palette of colors.

The Ambassador was/is a student model, built to last - not coax the last 5% out of the sound. You will probably need to look for a more professional instrument to get a big difference in tone color. Many years ago I played a Besson Stratford cornet that was very "smooth", "buttery" in tone. If you get a dark sound out of the Coprion, why try to duplicate that with another horn. Buy something with a completely different, complementary sonic stamp. Then you have much more choice AND something suitable for many different playing opportunities!

__________________
Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

ewetho

Some of that sound is technique while other parts are the mouthpiece and how it relates to you. Might need a old school deep "V" cup shape piece to help you get there. Yammie E cup while deep is still a Bowl shape which has some inherent brightness. I can easily get very bright on my 20D2d while my 43.5B/692s is harder to get very bright and is by default much warmer in tone.

Still yet another part of the equation is the horn.

__________________
Kanstul Chicago 1001 w/ CG Personal GP
Conn 80A w/ CG Personal GP

aspires

Hmmm... thanks for the input, but I guess what I am trying to ask is:

What cornets, that have better intonation and maybe looser slotting than a Director, have an inherently mellow/dark/flugely sound to them?

rowuk

Re: Fuzzy cornets?
Hmmm... thanks for the input, but I guess what I am trying to ask is:

What cornets, that have better intonation and maybe looser slotting than a Director, have an inherently mellow/dark/flugely sound to them?
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

English cornets like Smith/Watkins, Besson and my absolute favorite, the Taylor medium bore cornet - this is the sexiest sounding instrument that I have ever played, so voluptuous and silky!

__________________
Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.