Help with a Schilke

etranger · 10-30-2009, 11:38 AM

I am offered a Schilke. The seller doesn't know anything about the trumpet, not even the model.

Its serial is 102xx, and I think it is one of the 1980s horns. Does anyone know more about this? I cannot find any info on any of the Schilke serial numbers page.

Also, if I am right, this thing's going to have Yamalloy valve problems, right?

rowuk · 10-30-2009, 12:22 PM

The Yamalloy problem did not occur on all horns Schilke produced, To be honest, Schilke had the tightest tolerances in the industry BEFORE the Yamaha joint venture and I know personally of many cases of the valves hanging when the valve block was squeezed to hard. After a year or 2 of normal wear, no more problems.

Even the Yamalloy valves if properly cleaned and oiled are just fine.

Play before you pay. Even a Schilke could have been overhauled in a garage without proper tools!

here is a list of serial numbers:
http://www.horn-u-copia.net/schilkelist.html#table2
http://www.musictrader.com/schilke.html

The Schilke team is great. I am sure that you can contact them too.

richtom · 10-30-2009, 12:45 PM

According to the Schilke Loyalist The Schilke Loyalist,
your prospective instrument is not part of the Yamalloy issues.
Give Schilke a call and they will immediately know what model that serial number is and as Rowuk says, they will immediately help with any questions or problems with Schilke horns.
Rich T

Solar Bell · 10-30-2009, 01:18 PM

By the way....your model number will be on the leadpipe right at the mouthpiece reciever.

Pete · 10-30-2009, 05:06 PM

Any of the Yamaha/Schilkes have Yamaha valve casings. They do not look like a Schilke valve casing.

Schwab · 10-30-2009, 05:25 PM

Call Schilke, they keep very detailed records:

708-343-8858

y-o-y · 10-30-2009, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Schwab

Call Schilke, they keep very detailed records:

708-343-8858

And they are very helpful and friendly. I called them not long ago and they were able to quickly tell me the month and year of production on my April 1977 X3

DivineWind · 10-31-2009, 01:06 AM

The Yamalloy-affected horns are in the serial-number range 20,000-29,999.

etranger · 11-01-2009, 05:44 AM

Thanks everyone.

I got my info from those great people from Schilke :)

My problem was that the current owner has absolutely no idea about trumpets...at all! I could not get him to read model number, even though I explained where he'd find it.

It's a B7. I'll go try it and buy it if I like it.

:)

etranger · 11-03-2009, 05:53 PM

Yet another question: what does "SLB" on its mouthpiece receiver stand for? Not "Schilke Large Bore", I suppose? It's a B7.

10-30-2009, 11:38 AM	#1
etranger New Friend Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 17	Help with a Schilke I am offered a Schilke. The seller doesn't know anything about the trumpet, not even the model. Its serial is 102xx, and I think it is one of the 1980s horns. Does anyone know more about this? I cannot find any info on any of the Schilke serial numbers page. Also, if I am right, this thing's going to have Yamalloy valve problems, right?

10-30-2009, 12:22 PM	#2
rowuk Moderator Utimate User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 7,365	Re: Help with a Schilke The Yamalloy problem did not occur on all horns Schilke produced, To be honest, Schilke had the tightest tolerances in the industry BEFORE the Yamaha joint venture and I know personally of many cases of the valves hanging when the valve block was squeezed to hard. After a year or 2 of normal wear, no more problems. Even the Yamalloy valves if properly cleaned and oiled are just fine. Play before you pay. Even a Schilke could have been overhauled in a garage without proper tools! here is a list of serial numbers: http://www.horn-u-copia.net/schilkelist.html#table2 http://www.musictrader.com/schilke.html The Schilke team is great. I am sure that you can contact them too. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again. Last edited by rowuk; 10-30-2009 at 12:28 PM.

10-30-2009, 12:45 PM	#3
richtom Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 195	Re: Help with a Schilke According to the Schilke Loyalist The Schilke Loyalist, your prospective instrument is not part of the Yamalloy issues. Give Schilke a call and they will immediately know what model that serial number is and as Rowuk says, they will immediately help with any questions or problems with Schilke horns. Rich T

10-30-2009, 01:18 PM	#4
Solar Bell Moderator Utimate User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Metro Detroit Posts: 5,526	Re: Help with a Schilke By the way....your model number will be on the leadpipe right at the mouthpiece reciever. __________________ Chuck Willard *The Willard of Oz* "Don't be afraid to see what you see." Ronald Reagan The average response time of a 911 call is over 4 minutes. The average speed of my 9mm is 1250 fps *When seconds count....the police are only minutes away.*

10-30-2009, 05:06 PM	#5
Pete Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 155	Re: Help with a Schilke Any of the Yamaha/Schilkes have Yamaha valve casings. They do not look like a Schilke valve casing. __________________ Pete Grimaldi

10-30-2009, 05:25 PM	#6
Schwab Moderator Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: NYC Posts: 1,690	Re: Help with a Schilke Call Schilke, they keep very detailed records: 708-343-8858 __________________ Dylan Schwab Stage 1 New York

10-31-2009, 01:06 AM	#8
DivineWind New Friend Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 16	Re: Help with a Schilke The Yamalloy-affected horns are in the serial-number range 20,000-29,999.

11-01-2009, 05:44 AM	#9
etranger New Friend Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 17	Re: Help with a Schilke Thanks everyone. I got my info from those great people from Schilke :) My problem was that the current owner has absolutely no idea about trumpets...at all! I could not get him to read model number, even though I explained where he'd find it. It's a B7. I'll go try it and buy it if I like it. :)

11-03-2009, 05:53 PM	#10
etranger New Friend Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 17	Re: Help with a Schilke Yet another question: what does "SLB" on its mouthpiece receiver stand for? Not "Schilke Large Bore", I suppose? It's a B7.

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