Hidden Horns

Jazzcmor · 09-28-2009, 01:27 AM

I have been looking over the internet, e-bay, and craigslist for the last cople of years in preparation for buying a good semi-pro flugel. One thing I have noticed is the similarity of brands. For instance I was bidding on a FH on e-bay. On the bell was inscribed J. Gras. J. Gras was a French retailer in the early 1930s (I think) and this horn looked exactly like a Coueson. Another couple of horns I've seen lately are the Zeus 800 R and the Blessing w/copper. Again, very similar horns. I guess now my real question is, who makes the Zeus 800 R model? Could it be a Blessing or Kanstul in disguise?

bagmangood · 09-28-2009, 01:28 AM

the zeus horns are all made by kanstul

rowuk · 09-28-2009, 02:14 AM

Just because an instrument is built for another company does NOT mean that it shares any of the virtues of the original.

If Kanstul is building to a price, certain things may NOT be the same. The TLC in positioning the braces for instance can make a HUGE difference in how the horn plays.

09-28-2009, 01:27 AM	#1
Jazzcmor New Friend Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Blue Ridge Parkway, VA. Posts: 9	Hidden Horns I have been looking over the internet, e-bay, and craigslist for the last cople of years in preparation for buying a good semi-pro flugel. One thing I have noticed is the similarity of brands. For instance I was bidding on a FH on e-bay. On the bell was inscribed J. Gras. J. Gras was a French retailer in the early 1930s (I think) and this horn looked exactly like a Coueson. Another couple of horns I've seen lately are the Zeus 800 R and the Blessing w/copper. Again, very similar horns. I guess now my real question is, who makes the Zeus 800 R model? Could it be a Blessing or Kanstul in disguise?

09-28-2009, 01:28 AM	#2
bagmangood Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bostonish & San Francisco Posts: 946	Re: Hidden Horns the zeus horns are all made by kanstul __________________ Bb: Courtois 305 "Elite" C: Bach C180-239 (Akwright conversion), Cornet: Conn Wonder (1900) Picc: Selmer Paris, ~1971

09-28-2009, 02:14 AM	#3
rowuk Moderator Utimate User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 7,364	Re: Hidden Horns Just because an instrument is built for another company does NOT mean that it shares any of the virtues of the original. If Kanstul is building to a price, certain things may NOT be the same. The TLC in positioning the braces for instance can make a HUGE difference in how the horn plays. __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

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