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Old 03-14-2007, 04:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I need an Eclipse Enligthment (this is not a joke)

I was surfing on the Eclipse trumpet site when I got to this picture http://www.eclipsetrumpets.com/2005/...1_lacquer3.jpg Can anyone tell me why is there two 1st piston slides on this trumpet? I found that this looks really unusual and want to know the reason.
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Old 03-14-2007, 04:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: I need an Eclipse Enligthment (this is not a joke)

There aren't, the tubing has been wrapped differently, leading to a shorter instrument.
It is called the Equinox - a quick description from the website:

The Equinox model is essentially a more compact version of the Eclipse trumpet. The valve section has been moved closer to the player. Although the valve section is almost as close to the player as that of a cornet, the Equinox is most definitely a trumpet, in appearance, sound, and feel. It is approximately 4 1/2" shorter in length than a standard trumpet. This was accomplished by reducing both the bell and leadpipe length, and adding it back through an extra wrap around the main tuning slide, and also at the bottom leg of the bell section. Like all Eclipse trumpets, the tuning slide assembly has been attached to the rear bell assembly, resembling an added valve slide.

The Equinox is described by Noel Langley, who has played in leading UK orchestras, orchestral film sessions and much, much more, as responsive and rich toned yet with a screaming top end. Equinox possesses a focused sound with loads of projection. As far as the feel of the horn, it’s so well balanced that it seems to be lighter than a regular trumpet. It feels very intimate and personal, as if the trumpet were more part of you.
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Old 03-14-2007, 05:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: I need an Eclipse Enligthment (this is not a joke)

I found another picture gives view on the wrapping http://www.eclipsetrumpets.com/2005/...1_lacquer2.jpg Thanks, TMike. So, the Exuinox tunes on the rear bell assembly instead of the bell crook, right?
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Old 03-14-2007, 10:55 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: I need an Eclipse Enligthment (this is not a joke)

Yes. All Eclipse brand trumpets tune at the rear or "bell crook". The Equinox just has an extra "S" bend in it to shorten the overall instrument. It is not alone in this, there are some examples of earlier model (antique) cornets that had something very similar.
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Re: I need an Eclipse Enligthment (this is not a joke)

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Actually, I believe that the cornets, flugelhorns, and the prototype piccolos I saw all tune in the conventional manner. Alex might correct me on the cornet, since I only spent a brief time with those instruments.
You are correct Pat. The only horns that use the rear crook tuning mechanism are the Cs and Bbs. The rest of the instruments have traditional tuning slides/pipes.
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Old 03-14-2007, 11:06 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Re: I need an Eclipse Enligthment (this is not a joke)

Which is why I specified "Eclipse brand trumpets". We're all on the same page.
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Re: I need an Eclipse Enligthment (this is not a joke)

I have a reason to keep practicing.
I hope that there will be an Equinox at ITG. I'll give it a try.

Holy smokes, that is a lot of money! (I just looked up the price.)
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Re: I need an Eclipse Enligthment (this is not a joke)

"........Holy smokes, that is a lot of money! (I just looked up the price.).."

Actually, everything is relative and Eclipse pricing is very competitive for what they make. Almost all other hand makers ask considerably more. I was looking at Inderbinen prices just now and they are 50% more. The other UK bespoke maker, Taylor, charges comparable prices for his models.
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