Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 15
Like Tree5Likes
Horns Discuss Identifying Jupiter Trumpet in the Equipment forums; Hello, Can you please help me in identifying this trumpet, it's a Juptier but can't tell exactly. s-l1600.jpg s-l1600 (1).jpg ...
  1. #1
    New Friend
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    11

    Identifying Jupiter Trumpet

    Hello,

    Can you please help me in identifying this trumpet, it's a Juptier but can't tell exactly.
    s-l1600.jpgs-l1600 (1).jpg

    Thanks,
    Darius

  2. #2
    Piano User OldSchoolEuph's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    457

    Re: Identifying Jupiter Trumpet

    I think you may have a horn built from parts of others. There is what looks like a model engraved in the side of the receiver (CTR-100?? it certainly is not one), but I don't think this can be a Jupiter (or someone else will respond shortly and surprise me, but...). This horn has Henry Esbach's nested tuning and key change slide system - the stop rod has been replaced and should be long enough to set the back slide out to the key of A. Trumpet parts in A became pretty much extinct by World War II, and the last horns built with an A key-change capability phased out of production after the war. KHS Music, which is the Taiwanese company that does business as Jupiter, built their first instruments in 1957.

    This looks like something built in the 1940s (or 30s) that has been updated with other parts, probably the receiver among them, to me.
    Trumpet: 1961 Mt. Vernon Bach 43, 2000 Xeno 8335RGS, 1927 Conn 22B NYS
    Euphonium: 1965 Besson baritone, 1975 Yamaha YEP-321, 1985 YEP-621
    Trombone: 1975 Olds Recording R-20
    MP: Schilke 17d4d & 53

    www.trumpet-history.com

  3. #3
    New Friend
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    11

    Re: Identifying Jupiter Trumpet

    This is from ebay, and I asked the seller to tell me what model is this Jupiter trumpet and he replied: "The Model is Jupiter".

    Do you know how much this is worth or have an idea?

  4. #4
    Fortissimo User BrassBandMajor's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    New Zealand
    Posts
    2,719

    Re: Identifying Jupiter Trumpet

    I wonder where ConnDirectorFan is.......

    I would pay 80 bucks for that maximum. Looks like a frankenhorn to me.
    Attention:
    Constant N+1 & N-1 in progress!

    Vincent Bach Mt. Vernon Mercedes Trumpet
    B&S Challenger I 3137
    Couesnon 'Triebert Moderne' Monopole Piccolo
    Hermann Ganter G7aN
    Arno Windisch 'Silber-Deluxe'
    1959 Conn 28A 'Connstellation'

    This message was created using 100% recycled electrons.



  5. #5
    Fortissimo User ConnDirectorFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    3,430

    Re: Identifying Jupiter Trumpet

    Get the seller to take the d--- valve guard off. The Jupiter brand was introduced in 1979[ they started with Swallow in 1957 but the only ones I've seen are from after 1969) and the horns look way older because they copied old design elements from other makers...

    Okay - the receiver looks to be marked STR-100ish or 300ish. The 100 is a Conn 15B Director...imitation [look for the casings and bottom-sprung pistons]. The bell stamp is the JUPITER / KHS MUSICAL INSTRUMENTS design. The STR designations were introduced in 1983, the above bell stamp was introduced around then, so this horn is from 1983 at earliest. The braces and other parts look distinctively KHS/Jupiter. They reset the serials to 500000 in 1986 with a new stamp font.
    I've not seen a C/B-flat from Jupiter but that doesn't mean they didn't make one.

    The 300 is a Yamaha-esque imitation with pistons copied from B&H Microbor and used on various models.

    Get that seller to photograph the receiver [a good photo, too], take out the pistons, but most importantly - photograph the serial!
    True Tone likes this.
    "The Musica man is a Conn man"
    Blue felts
    Conn barrel-spring pistons

    2005 Yamaha 6310Z trumpet
    2008 Conn-Selmer King 1117SP trumpet
    1972 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
    1972 Conn 24A flügelhorn (Swiss Kurath/Willson stencil)
    1966 Conn 5A Victor cornet
    1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
    1970s Musica Steyr–Austria cornet (Czech Amati B-1038/Bohland-Fuchs 2551 stencil)
    and others

    Thanks to Reedman1 for profile image help

  6. #6
    New Friend
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    11

    Re: Identifying Jupiter Trumpet

    This are the photos he sent me, on the receiver it says STR-306.
    $_142.jpg$_122 (1).jpg$_122.jpg
    ConnDirectorFan and True Tone like this.

  7. #7
    New Friend
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    11

    Re: Identifying Jupiter Trumpet

    The first picture: Attachment 14400

  8. #8
    Fortissimo User ConnDirectorFan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2010
    Location
    United States
    Posts
    3,430

    Re: Identifying Jupiter Trumpet

    Quote Originally Posted by dariusb View Post
    The first picture: Attachment 14400
    It says invalid; the STR-306 looks like a lower-level multi-key trumpet [I might have one in my serial list for KHS]

    I do have one in my list! 813025, from 1989, modern-stamp serial - French eBay
    "The Musica man is a Conn man"
    Blue felts
    Conn barrel-spring pistons

    2005 Yamaha 6310Z trumpet
    2008 Conn-Selmer King 1117SP trumpet
    1972 Conn 6B Victor trumpet
    1972 Conn 24A flügelhorn (Swiss Kurath/Willson stencil)
    1966 Conn 5A Victor cornet
    1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
    1970s Musica Steyr–Austria cornet (Czech Amati B-1038/Bohland-Fuchs 2551 stencil)
    and others

    Thanks to Reedman1 for profile image help

  9. #9
    New Friend
    Join Date
    Oct 2016
    Posts
    11

    Re: Identifying Jupiter Trumpet

    Can you say a price?

  10. #10
    Piano User OldSchoolEuph's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    457

    Re: Identifying Jupiter Trumpet

    So are we saying then that KHS built a Bb/A trumpet in the late 1980s, 40 years after everyone else stopped building those (because NOTHING is written for trumpet-in-A)? The proportions with that rear slide all the way in are Bb. The stop rod shows it is an Esbach configuration, not a removable insert for C. So it is definitely an A/Bb.
    Trumpet: 1961 Mt. Vernon Bach 43, 2000 Xeno 8335RGS, 1927 Conn 22B NYS
    Euphonium: 1965 Besson baritone, 1975 Yamaha YEP-321, 1985 YEP-621
    Trombone: 1975 Olds Recording R-20
    MP: Schilke 17d4d & 53

    www.trumpet-history.com

Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Similar Threads

  1. Help identifying an old trumpet?
    By JC Nelson in forum Vintage Trumpets / Cornets
    Replies: 10
    Last Post: 12-05-2016, 01:28 PM
  2. Help Identifying Trumpet
    By mchs3d in forum Horns
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 04-02-2015, 02:23 AM
  3. Identifying my trumpet
    By buzzbee in forum Vintage Trumpets / Cornets
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 01-17-2009, 04:27 PM
  4. Help identifying trumpet
    By trumpetbeginner11 in forum Vintage Trumpets / Cornets
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-21-2007, 04:26 PM
  5. Need help Identifying trumpet
    By anchovie28 in forum Horns
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 09-04-2006, 10:37 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26