I've Heard Good Things!

Bruce Lee · 11-10-2003, 05:26 PM

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Leigh,

I've heard good things about your horn but what is it that puts your horn above the rest?

Bruce Lee · 11-10-2003, 05:27 PM

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« Reply #1 on: 10/06/2003 at 23:31:53 »

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I have heard great things as well. Trent could you tell us what is so great about these instruments.

Leigh how did you come up with the design for these horns.

TM

Bruce Lee · 11-10-2003, 05:28 PM

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« Reply #2 on: 10/07/2003 at 15:25:29 »

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Hi all!

Well firstly i wouldnt ever say that my horns are set apart from the rest, i will say that i have made a range of horns that are up with the very best there is at this time.

Trumpet players are all different of course and all have different needs (which is refreshing!)

An Eclipse will not be for everyone, nor will a bach,lawler, taylor,schilke etc etc etc......

But having said that i hope that with the different bells available that we have covered all bases and from the response we have had so far from the players coming in to the factory, it does seem that we have achieved just that.

The idea for the main tuning slide at the back of the horn is not new as such, i am aware it has been tried decades ago by CONN, not in exactly the same way but the same theory as such.
It was not an easy design and took us over 2 years to get right in the development stages before we were willing to launch.
You have probably heard this before but for the benefit of this new site i'll bore you all once more!!! (sorry)

The idea behind the back tuning slide is actually very easy and common sense.
The major amount of your energy and focus of blow is of course crucial from the point of blow(Mouthpiece) all the way into the 3rd valve port.
We feel that by disturbing this airflow, a certain amount of energy is lost when the air hits the steps that are caused by traditional main tuning slides and is dipersed into and through the metal.
An Eclipse does not have these steps at these points and therefore allows the airflow a natural course into the valve section.
A step is indeed purposely placed after the valve section on the main tuning slide coming out of the 1st valve port so to create what we think is a great balance of resistance, or the horn would simply be far too open a blow.
These are just our beliefs of course, but we do not spend many extra work hours on placing the main tuning slide at the back to be original, it is for a reason and a reason we stand by .
Making a traditional horn is far easier to make and takes less time as you are making a tuning slide from tube sizes that are generally the same diameter.

I hope this helps a little?

If you need any more info,,, just ask ill be glad to help!!!

Leigh
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Bruce Lee · 11-10-2003, 05:29 PM

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« Reply #3 on: 10/08/2003 at 02:14:35 »

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Leigh you are a class act. From what I hear you make an amazing horn. (looking fwd to trying one someday) And you are humble! What a combination. Thanks for Moderating!

TM

Bruce Lee · 11-10-2003, 05:30 PM

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« Reply #4 on: 10/08/2003 at 06:41:34 »

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Leigh won't say it, because he's a nice guy, but I'm definetly willin to say that my new Eclipse is the best playing horn I've played. Keep in mind I've never touched a Monette or Lawler, but I doubt anyone could improve on what Leigh's built. If your looking toward a new horn, you should at least make a point to blow one for a few minutes.
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Bruce Lee · 11-10-2003, 05:31 PM

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« Reply #5 on: 10/08/2003 at 08:22:49 »

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Hiya, Leigh!

The Equinox is the one that has total appeal for me! FAT mid/low register.... RIPPIN' upper register! It's the best horn I've ever played! I have checked all of the Eclipse models out... quite well. There's a reason for that!

The response, intonation, and slotting is excellent. Normally, when slotting is so good, you give up flexibility. Not so... it's unbelievable!

Trptmaster - If you're interested in checkin' out the Eclipse, just let me know. I'll be glad to give you info on how to accomplish that!

I've done some traveling around the country with them. Next stop.... Melrose, Massachusetts - November 1st. Dallas/Fort Worth - November 15th... workin' on that! Atlanta, in December - Holiday Trumpets - December 7th. Atlanta - January 10th

If any of you guys are in the US, and you're interested... PLEASE contact me! Anyone is welcome to come to my place to check them out. If it makes a difference, New Hampshire is TAX FREE!

Bruce

Bruce Lee · 11-10-2003, 05:32 PM

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« Reply #6 on: 10/11/2003 at 02:34:10 »

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Hi Thevor
I tried 3 different bell sizes at Edinburgh in April. They are all stormingly good. I play in many different settings so the medium bell would be the smart choice, but I can't forget the sound I got out of the large red brass belled Eclipse.
The fit, finish and craftmanship are superb, great response and intonation, what's there not to like!!!!
all the best
Brian Jones

Bruce Lee · 11-10-2003, 05:33 PM

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« Reply #7 on: 10/15/2003 at 11:06:09 »

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I tried 3 Eclipse horns at Bruce Lee's over the weekend. They are excellent. Even the medium bore is free blowing for its size. All very flexible with great tone. If you are looking for a top end horn, check these out without question. Also Bruce is terrific to deal with!
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Smith-Watkins 464R20/H250 C (GR65M)
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Bruce Lee · 11-10-2003, 05:34 PM

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« Reply #8 on: 10/17/2003 at 13:47:58 »

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I've been able to play (on two different occassions) the Eclipse White Lightning that was made for Paul (Horn of Praise). I was equally impressed both times. It blows very easily, much like my Schilke B1. Low register is full and middle register took very little effort to achieve what I wanted to hear. I didn't purposely try to overblow the horn, but when I used big and fast air, the horn responded wonderfully. With Paul's Monette B4-L mouthpiece, slotting was confident and resistance was low.

Great tone, in tune, terrific workmanship - certainly an instrument worthy of world-class status.

-Mike
'67 Holton Al Hirt Special
Monette STC B1-5
« Last Edit: 10/23/2003 at 14:23:38 by MikeZ »

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11-10-2003, 05:26 PM	#1 (permalink)
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Bruce Lee Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS Posts: 463	BruceLee New Member member is offline Posts: 4 Re: I've heard good things « Reply #5 on: 10/08/2003 at 08:22:49 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hiya, Leigh! The Equinox is the one that has total appeal for me! FAT mid/low register.... RIPPIN' upper register! It's the best horn I've ever played! I have checked all of the Eclipse models out... quite well. There's a reason for that! The response, intonation, and slotting is excellent. Normally, when slotting is so good, you give up flexibility. Not so... it's unbelievable! Trptmaster - If you're interested in checkin' out the Eclipse, just let me know. I'll be glad to give you info on how to accomplish that! I've done some traveling around the country with them. Next stop.... Melrose, Massachusetts - November 1st. Dallas/Fort Worth - November 15th... workin' on that! Atlanta, in December - Holiday Trumpets - December 7th. Atlanta - January 10th If any of you guys are in the US, and you're interested... PLEASE contact me! Anyone is welcome to come to my place to check them out. If it makes a difference, New Hampshire is TAX FREE! Bruce
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11-10-2003, 05:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Bruce Lee Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS Posts: 463	Trptmaster Administrator member is online Posts: 336 Re: I've heard good things « Reply #1 on: 10/06/2003 at 23:31:53 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I have heard great things as well. Trent could you tell us what is so great about these instruments. Leigh how did you come up with the design for these horns. TM

11-10-2003, 05:28 PM	#3 (permalink)
Bruce Lee Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS Posts: 463	eclipse Moderator member is offline Gender: Posts: 52 Re: I've heard good things « Reply #2 on: 10/07/2003 at 15:25:29 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi all! Well firstly i wouldnt ever say that my horns are set apart from the rest, i will say that i have made a range of horns that are up with the very best there is at this time. Trumpet players are all different of course and all have different needs (which is refreshing!) An Eclipse will not be for everyone, nor will a bach,lawler, taylor,schilke etc etc etc...... But having said that i hope that with the different bells available that we have covered all bases and from the response we have had so far from the players coming in to the factory, it does seem that we have achieved just that. The idea for the main tuning slide at the back of the horn is not new as such, i am aware it has been tried decades ago by CONN, not in exactly the same way but the same theory as such. It was not an easy design and took us over 2 years to get right in the development stages before we were willing to launch. You have probably heard this before but for the benefit of this new site i'll bore you all once more!!! (sorry) The idea behind the back tuning slide is actually very easy and common sense. The major amount of your energy and focus of blow is of course crucial from the point of blow(Mouthpiece) all the way into the 3rd valve port. We feel that by disturbing this airflow, a certain amount of energy is lost when the air hits the steps that are caused by traditional main tuning slides and is dipersed into and through the metal. An Eclipse does not have these steps at these points and therefore allows the airflow a natural course into the valve section. A step is indeed purposely placed after the valve section on the main tuning slide coming out of the 1st valve port so to create what we think is a great balance of resistance, or the horn would simply be far too open a blow. These are just our beliefs of course, but we do not spend many extra work hours on placing the main tuning slide at the back to be original, it is for a reason and a reason we stand by . Making a traditional horn is far easier to make and takes less time as you are making a tuning slide from tube sizes that are generally the same diameter. I hope this helps a little? If you need any more info,,, just ask ill be glad to help!!! Leigh -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- www.eclipsetrumpets.com

11-10-2003, 05:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
Bruce Lee Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS Posts: 463	Trptmaster Administrator member is online Posts: 336 Re: I've heard good things « Reply #3 on: 10/08/2003 at 02:14:35 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leigh you are a class act. From what I hear you make an amazing horn. (looking fwd to trying one someday) And you are humble! What a combination. Thanks for Moderating! TM

11-10-2003, 05:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
Bruce Lee Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS Posts: 463	Jarrett New Member member is offline Gender: Posts: 19 Re: I've heard good things « Reply #4 on: 10/08/2003 at 06:41:34 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Leigh won't say it, because he's a nice guy, but I'm definetly willin to say that my new Eclipse is the best playing horn I've played. Keep in mind I've never touched a Monette or Lawler, but I doubt anyone could improve on what Leigh's built. If your looking toward a new horn, you should at least make a point to blow one for a few minutes. -J -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Medium bell Eclipse Scratch Gold 37H Bach in Gold plate 3c

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Bruce Lee Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS Posts: 463	brj New Member member is offline Posts: 8 Re: I've heard good things « Reply #6 on: 10/11/2003 at 02:34:10 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Hi Thevor I tried 3 different bell sizes at Edinburgh in April. They are all stormingly good. I play in many different settings so the medium bell would be the smart choice, but I can't forget the sound I got out of the large red brass belled Eclipse. The fit, finish and craftmanship are superb, great response and intonation, what's there not to like!!!! all the best Brian Jones

11-10-2003, 05:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
Bruce Lee Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS Posts: 463	MartinRooney New Member member is offline Gender: Posts: 3 Re: I've heard good things « Reply #7 on: 10/15/2003 at 11:06:09 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I tried 3 Eclipse horns at Bruce Lee's over the weekend. They are excellent. Even the medium bore is free blowing for its size. All very flexible with great tone. If you are looking for a top end horn, check these out without question. Also Bruce is terrific to deal with! -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Marty Smith-Watkins 464R25/34 Bb (GR65M) Smith-Watkins 464R20/H250 C (GR65M) Kanstul CCT920 Picc (GR62P-M) Courtois 154G Flugel (GR65FL)

11-10-2003, 05:34 PM	#9 (permalink)
Bruce Lee Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: HOUSTON, TEXAS Posts: 463	MikeZ New Member member is offline Gender: Posts: 2 Re: I've heard good things « Reply #8 on: 10/17/2003 at 13:47:58 » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've been able to play (on two different occassions) the Eclipse White Lightning that was made for Paul (Horn of Praise). I was equally impressed both times. It blows very easily, much like my Schilke B1. Low register is full and middle register took very little effort to achieve what I wanted to hear. I didn't purposely try to overblow the horn, but when I used big and fast air, the horn responded wonderfully. With Paul's Monette B4-L mouthpiece, slotting was confident and resistance was low. Great tone, in tune, terrific workmanship - certainly an instrument worthy of world-class status. -Mike '67 Holton Al Hirt Special Monette STC B1-5 « Last Edit: 10/23/2003 at 14:23:38 by MikeZ » -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -Mike Holton Al Hirt Special Monette STC B1-5

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