Lacquer removing

jicetp · 03-03-2007, 12:30 PM

Hi everybody.

Anyone knows a trustable and cheap way to get rid of the ( still existent ) lacquer on my horn ?
Thanks

JICe

trumpetsplus · 03-03-2007, 01:24 PM

What sort of lacquer are we talking about. i.e. what brand horn and how old?

If the horn has older Cellulose lacquer, hot water will often remove the lacquer. If it is an old Bach, then the regular chemicals used in Chemical Cleaning will remove the lacquer. Ask me how I know this!!!!

Most repair shops will have a vat of lacquer remover, it is either done hot or cold depending on the chemicals used. Most strippers contain Methylene Chloride which is pretty nasty and will even dissolve some "rubber" gloves. It is the same process as paint stripping. I am currently experimenting with "Citristrip" which is a lot less toxic. Mixed results so far.

W Scott · 03-03-2007, 01:41 PM

Simple to do---get a can of Brasso from the store, heavy rubber gloves, and a bag of rags. Slather on the brasso and let it dry for a few minutes and then rub off the lacquer with the rags. That's how I stripped my '47 Conn.

stradguy · 03-03-2007, 08:21 PM

Yea the brasso is the way i do it

gzent · 03-04-2007, 04:01 PM

I've done a few of these, tried several different methods and chemicals, including Brasso, Citristrip, Bix, etc.

The easiest and quickest by far is "Klean-Strip Aircarft Remover" in a
blue and white spay bottle. Nothing else you can buy "over the counter"
even comes close. I buy the stuff at Wal-Mart - its cheap.

Greg

MJ · 03-04-2007, 04:08 PM

If you go the aricraft stripper route I would wear some eye protection and gloves. I've used it before and its serious stuff.

Quote:

Originally Posted by gzent

I've done a few of these, tried several different methods and chemicals, including Brasso, Citristrip, Bix, etc.

The easiest and quickest by far is "Klean-Strip Aircarft Remover" in a
blue and white spay bottle. Nothing else you can buy "over the counter"
even comes close. I buy the stuff at Wal-Mart - its cheap.

Greg

cornetguy · 03-04-2007, 05:49 PM

i used the brasso before too. the one i did that with is only fit to be turned into a lamp anyone done that before? Pointers on how to do that.

stchasking · 03-04-2007, 06:05 PM

Brasso contains Phosphoric Acid. Try not to use it.
You want a solvent product. Not an acid. Give acetone a try.
Or go to an auto paint store and ask what they use. There is a Dupont automotive paint store in every major city. You can also try the farm stores. Ask for lacquer remover.
Please, don't use acids.

gzent · 03-04-2007, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MJ

If you go the aricraft stripper route I would wear some eye protection and gloves. I've used it before and its serious stuff.

Certainly, you don't want to use any chemical strippers with protection.

It does work nice, especially the hard to get at spots.

MFMeow · 03-08-2007, 04:50 PM

I used acetone and cotton balls on a 1950's Old Ambassador. Took a while to get it all off, but seemed much less harsh than some other chemicals.

03-03-2007, 12:30 PM	#1 (permalink)
jicetp New Friend Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: FRANCE Posts: 7	Lacquer removing Hi everybody. Anyone knows a trustable and cheap way to get rid of the ( still existent ) lacquer on my horn ? Thanks JICe

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trumpetsplus New Friend Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: South Salem, NY Posts: 15	Re: Lacquer removing What sort of lacquer are we talking about. i.e. what brand horn and how old? If the horn has older Cellulose lacquer, hot water will often remove the lacquer. If it is an old Bach, then the regular chemicals used in Chemical Cleaning will remove the lacquer. Ask me how I know this!!!! Most repair shops will have a vat of lacquer remover, it is either done hot or cold depending on the chemicals used. Most strippers contain Methylene Chloride which is pretty nasty and will even dissolve some "rubber" gloves. It is the same process as paint stripping. I am currently experimenting with "Citristrip" which is a lot less toxic. Mixed results so far. __________________ Ivan Hunter www.trumpetsplus.com Home of the Hunter-Diamond and Jaeger Trumpets

03-03-2007, 01:41 PM	#3 (permalink)
W Scott Piano User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Carson City, NV. Posts: 490	Re: Lacquer removing Simple to do---get a can of Brasso from the store, heavy rubber gloves, and a bag of rags. Slather on the brasso and let it dry for a few minutes and then rub off the lacquer with the rags. That's how I stripped my '47 Conn. __________________ Gabriel is NOT a woodwind player!

03-03-2007, 08:21 PM	#4 (permalink)
stradguy Pianissimo User Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Montevallo,Alabama Posts: 87	Re: Lacquer removing Yea the brasso is the way i do it __________________ Conn Vocabell 40A 1938 King Liberty King Super 20 Weird really old Joseph Brunn Flugel Horn

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gzent Forte User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Rochester, MN Posts: 1,515	Re: Lacquer removing I've done a few of these, tried several different methods and chemicals, including Brasso, Citristrip, Bix, etc. The easiest and quickest by far is "Klean-Strip Aircarft Remover" in a blue and white spay bottle. Nothing else you can buy "over the counter" even comes close. I buy the stuff at Wal-Mart - its cheap. Greg __________________ Harmony and understanding Sympathy and trust abounding No more falsehoods or derisions Golden living dreams of visions Mystic crystal revalation And the mind's true liberation

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cornetguy Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Saint Paul, MN Posts: 780	Re: Lacquer removing i used the brasso before too. the one i did that with is only fit to be turned into a lamp anyone done that before? Pointers on how to do that. __________________ Per aspera ad astra

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stchasking Forte User Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,369	Re: Lacquer removing Brasso contains Phosphoric Acid. Try not to use it. You want a solvent product. Not an acid. Give acetone a try. Or go to an auto paint store and ask what they use. There is a Dupont automotive paint store in every major city. You can also try the farm stores. Ask for lacquer remover. Please, don't use acids. __________________ "I was performing professionally at age 17 and have never had a real job." Allen Vizzutti http://cdbaby.com/cd/mcking

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MFMeow New Friend Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Philly suburbs Posts: 11	Re: Lacquer removing I used acetone and cotton balls on a 1950's Old Ambassador. Took a while to get it all off, but seemed much less harsh than some other chemicals.

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