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    Pianissimo User Midlife Cornet Crisis's Avatar
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    Looking for economical, easy blow of a horn

    As my user name implies, I started playing a bit later in life. I don't have the best air capacity (I'm working on it). But in the meantime, I wondered if there is a horn (cornet or trumpet) that is known for being an "easy blow". I'm on a budget, so that matters too.... Thanks for any tips.
    Woman trumpeter. Aspire to sound like Chet Baker. Actually sound like meh.
    (My avatar picture is of Cynthia Robinson playing for Sly and the Family Stone.)

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    LeBlanc Al Hirt Signature trumpet, 1967? '68? (Paris)
    Olds Studio cornet, 1962 (Fullerton)
    E.K. Blessing Artist b141 cornet, 1988 (Elkhart)

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    Re: Looking for economical, easy blow of a horn

    The 2000 series Yamaha should do you fine. Or the - slightly more expensive - Stomvi Forte series. Jupiter does an easy blowing thing with the 600 series.

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    Re: Looking for economical, easy blow of a horn

    Quote Originally Posted by Midlife Cornet Crisis View Post
    I don't have the best air capacity (I'm working on it).
    If you are healthy and normal (I hope that you are not a greyish, short and slim creature, coming straight from zone 51) capacity is irrelevant. Very few (if any at all) of us have any bigger lungs than the rest.

    Control is everything. Most important is how you use what you've already got. What's wrong with the Al Hirt trumpet and Olds cornet? I had and Olds Ambassador cornet, it was absolutely fine, though not perfect. Never played the Al Hirt trumpet...so tell you what you are after, what you long for and you seem not to have...or you just want a "new"shiny toy for Xmas?
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    Re: Looking for economical, easy blow of a horn

    Thanks for the suggestions. The Al Hirt trumpet is awesome -- but takes more "air" than the Olds cornet. I would guess that cornets in general are "easier blows" than trumpets in general. Perhaps the Olds cornet is all I need and I just need more practice -- I don't doubt that for a minute! But, in the meantime, I wonder if there is a horn out there that is known for being an easy blow. I've heard people talk about such things, but not naming specific horns. So I just wanted to hear what these mythical horns are.
    Woman trumpeter. Aspire to sound like Chet Baker. Actually sound like meh.
    (My avatar picture is of Cynthia Robinson playing for Sly and the Family Stone.)

    (My profile picture is of Valaida Snow.)
    Horns:
    LeBlanc Al Hirt Signature trumpet, 1967? '68? (Paris)
    Olds Studio cornet, 1962 (Fullerton)
    E.K. Blessing Artist b141 cornet, 1988 (Elkhart)

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    Re: Looking for economical, easy blow of a horn

    Basically easy blow horns take more air. I doubt that with low budget you can get anything any better than you already have. You can also check Carol brass, they have some nice horns. The are rather middle priced, but most of them are worth the money. The student horns of Schagerl known as Academica are also kind of OK, as their new low end pro models, but I doubt that they will be cheap in US.
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    Re: Looking for economical, easy blow of a horn

    Conn 22B trumpet. Small bore and ridiculously easy to blow. Get one from the sixties and because it says student on the label, much cheaper. I've been playing mine for a while. Intonation is good and it will just spoil you with the easy range. Plug in a Curry TF mouthpiece and you have instant Chet.
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    Re: Looking for economical, easy blow of a horn

    Quote Originally Posted by sj3209 View Post
    Conn 22B trumpet. Small bore and ridiculously easy to blow. Get one from the sixties and because it says student on the label, much cheaper. I've been playing mine for a while. Intonation is good and it will just spoil you with the easy range. Plug in a Curry TF mouthpiece and you have instant Chet.
    While yes a 22B is a great horn, where does it say student on one?
    The only student ones I've seen were the later ones, in the 80s/90s or so, that have 22B in block letters on the bell.
    1950 Buescher model 217 Lightweight 400 Trumpet
    1910 Holton Couturier Model Cornet
    1950 Holton Model 28 Cornet
    1972 Holton Galaxy Trumpet
    1970 Conn 17A Cornet
    1948 Holton Model 79 Mellophone
    ...and a lot of woodwinds.

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    Re: Looking for economical, easy blow of a horn

    Quote Originally Posted by True Tone View Post
    While yes a 22B is a great horn, where does it say student on one?
    The only student ones I've seen were the later ones, in the 80s/90s or so, that have 22B in block letters on the bell.
    Here's one: CONN 22B Bb STUDENT TRUMPET-GREAT PLAYER LOOKS FINE | eBay
    Woman trumpeter. Aspire to sound like Chet Baker. Actually sound like meh.
    (My avatar picture is of Cynthia Robinson playing for Sly and the Family Stone.)

    (My profile picture is of Valaida Snow.)
    Horns:
    LeBlanc Al Hirt Signature trumpet, 1967? '68? (Paris)
    Olds Studio cornet, 1962 (Fullerton)
    E.K. Blessing Artist b141 cornet, 1988 (Elkhart)

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    Re: Looking for economical, easy blow of a horn

    Quote Originally Posted by sj3209 View Post
    Conn 22B trumpet. Small bore and ridiculously easy to blow. Get one from the sixties and because it says student on the label, much cheaper. I've been playing mine for a while. Intonation is good and it will just spoil you with the easy range. Plug in a Curry TF mouthpiece and you have instant Chet.
    Perhaps this?
    "The Musica man is a Conn man"

    2002-5 Yamaha 6310Z trumpet
    2008-11 Conn-Selmer King 1117SP trumpet
    1972-9 Conn 24A flügelhorn (Kurath/Willson stencil, Switzerland)
    1966 Conn 5A Victor cornet
    1962 Conn 9A Victor cornet
    1960s Musica Steyr–Austria tuning-bell cornet (Amati-Kraslice B-1038/Bohland & Fuchs 2551 stencil, Czechoslovakia)
    and some others

    Thanks to Reedman1 for profile image help

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    Re: Looking for economical, easy blow of a horn

    I would suggest a Holton t602 or c602. Both student models and well built. Ease of blow is relative. Student horns should have a bit more resistance for an easier production of good tone. Also the Holton line is always overlooked so they are priced nice. A pro horn weather trumpet or cornet is probably going to feel more open and will seem to take more air to get it going. Make sure you're not playing on a giant mouthpiece too that will be more taxing
    Getting it done these days with a cr310 and a very old Holton

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