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Old 10-18-2009, 09:36 PM   #1
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Looking for a mellow cornet

I picked up a Conn 18B cornet a while ago to play in a Dixieland band I have joined. I was looking for a mellower/darker sound than my trumpet a Yamaha 6335. Unfortunately I'm finding that the Conn 18B is as bright if not brighter then my Yamaha.

I was under the impression that cornets were a melower playing instrument due to their conical tubing. What's the story with this?

Is it the fact that the Conn is a student model horn? Should I be looking at a more expensive horn.

Can anyone make a recommendation of a reasonably priced cornet with what I;m looking for.
Perhaps I should look at a different mouthpiece ? I presently have Conn4 MP.

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Re: Looking for a mellow cornet

Find a deep V cup cornet mp, that will darken the tone . Should be many archived posts on this subject.
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Old 10-18-2009, 09:40 PM   #3
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Re: Looking for a mellow cornet

Do you have a model number?
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Re: Looking for a mellow cornet

From Kanstul you could look to a CG Personal or even the much deeper WK4 in about a 3C diameter.

The CG Personal made my 80A much more mellow and rich in color. Stay away from stuff like a 3C as that will cause you to be pretty dang bright. Deep V is much better.
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Re: Looking for a mellow cornet

one quick fix:

try playing on a curry TF or TC mouthpiece. they offer a little more of a mello sound
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Re: Looking for a mellow cornet

The TF or TC are trumpet mouthpieces. If you want to go the Curry route (like me), the VC cornet mouthpieces are nice.

Denis wick mouthpieces are also great mellow cornet sounds.
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Re: Looking for a mellow cornet

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From Kanstul you could look to a CG Personal or even the much deeper WK4 in about a 3C diameter.

The CG Personal made my 80A much more mellow and rich in color. Stay away from stuff like a 3C as that will cause you to be pretty dang bright. Deep V is much better.
Thanks for the suggestions, I will check them out.

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The TF or TC are trumpet mouthpieces. If you want to go the Curry route (like me), the VC cornet mouthpieces are nice.

Denis wick mouthpieces are also great mellow cornet sounds.
Do the the TF and TC MP's produce a mellow sound on trumpet?

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Re: Looking for a mellow cornet

"TF Cup: Not a flugelhorn cup on a trumpet blank, but a brand-new design! It incorporates the depth of sound you get on a flugel piece without the excess cup volume that makes those style mouthpieces difficult to play. It is in tune to high C and above, yet you can play softly and firmly in the low register. Perfect for soft orchestral passages, intimate jazz settings, or for just "working out". The cup is roughly 1/3 concave (trumpet-like) and 2/3 convex (flugel-like) with a special backbore and a .153" (3.89mm) bore. To compensate for tuning, the mouthpiece is .400" shorter than the standard Curry length of 3.5" You can put this mpc. in the horn and leave your tuning slide in approximately the same position. Initial comments from a test group of Orchestral players and Jazz players have included words like "Perfect!, "Wow!"

TC Cup: very similar to the TF design, but the bottom convex portion of the cup is 3/16" shallower. The TC has many of the same sound and playing characteristics of the TF cup, but has a slightly lighter blow. This cup will brighten when pushed and the upper register is easier to attain. A huge core is present in the sound." -Curry website
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Re: Looking for a mellow cornet

Vince,

I have a Conn Wonder mouthpiece that came with my vintage Conn Director cornet.
Is is V shaped and quite deep. I could let you have it for the cost of shipping, its just
collecting dust.

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