Mt. Vernon

orchestra_trumpet_star · 11-03-2005, 12:48 AM

hey all,
I am in the market for a new C trumpet. I was wondering if the Mt. Vernon's are a lot better than the current elkhart models...what are the differences? +/-? 229/239 and what leadpipe? This would be used mainly for orchestra trumpet parts...thanks!

Schwab · 11-03-2005, 12:56 AM

Good luck finding a Mt. Vernon C, and have your bankroll ready.

Common Bach configurations for orchestral C trumpets are L bore 229 bell with the H or A pipe. The A will tend to play a little more in tune and the H pipe will be a little bit more open.

Jimi Michiel · 11-03-2005, 08:40 AM

Just keep in mind that a Mt. Vernon Bach is not going to be a great instrument JUST because of when and where it was made. I've played a few Mt. Vernons that I would never play in public. I've also played a few that I almost wanted to sell my Monette to buy. It seems to me that inconsistency has been a trademark of the Bach corporation for a long, long time.

-Jimi

tom turner · 11-03-2005, 10:34 PM

Hi,

If you are looking for a 50's era vintage C trumpet, don't overlook those wonderful Benge C trumpets! If Eldon Benge hadn't died tragically in a car wreck a block or so from home in 1960, the Benge trumpets might have been the brand folks played today instead of Bach.

They are wonderful trumpets . . . and at better prices today than a comparable Mt. Vernon. The consistency issues are also virtually inexistent on the vintage Benges of the years when Eldon was alive!

Sincerely,

Tom Turner

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tom turner Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Brand: F. Oakes tpts/flug/cornet Posts: 788	Hi, If you are looking for a 50's era vintage C trumpet, don't overlook those wonderful Benge C trumpets! If Eldon Benge hadn't died tragically in a car wreck a block or so from home in 1960, the Benge trumpets might have been the brand folks played today instead of Bach. They are wonderful trumpets . . . and at better prices today than a comparable Mt. Vernon. The consistency issues are also virtually inexistent on the vintage Benges of the years when Eldon was alive! Sincerely, Tom Turner

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