My Stoner Olds Coprion Conversion

Dr. Stu · 10-01-2005, 10:54 AM

Well, I finally did it. After losing out on a couple of these beautiful horns, I decided to send my own to Garry for the full Monte.

Here is a current picture of my '53 Ambassador Cornet in Garry's shop.

Ouch.

I'm going with the Conn 17A Coprion bell, Amado's, Garry's custom copper bracing & 3rd slide finger ring.

We're going for a sound that is “Awesome… Sexy…Dark & Vibrant” (I love that description) which is the way some of Garry's previous creations with the 17A have been described.

I'm going with the scratched (or is it brushed) finish/clear lacquer look for the body and bell and like the polished bell interior, but I had a tough time deciding. (Opinion's please!) I thought that a brushed or scratched finish would be better for a darker sounding horn, but I do like the highlighting provided by the polished bell interior.

I'll post about the progress & the before & after's when I get the horn

- Stu

Dr. Stu · 10-08-2005, 01:07 PM

90 views & no comments? Well, I'll post the next picture anyway.

Bell, mouthpipe, and receiver mounted, slides fitted, brace patterns drawn. Next step is to cut, fit & place the sheet copper braces.

Anyone have one of these conversions & want to comment.?

Any comment on the finish choice? (I still have some time to decide).

-Stu

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Tootsall · 10-08-2005, 01:26 PM

Its looking pretty nice. I kinda "wonder" about the sheet bracing but the proof will be in the pudding (or playing)... as they say. You'll have to let us know how it actually plays and sounds once finished.

pwillini · 10-08-2005, 03:31 PM

Scratch gold plate all but the bell. Get Jason Dumars to engrave the entire bell then have it lacquered.

http://dumarsengraving.com

VINTAGEBRASS · 10-08-2005, 04:08 PM

I have a Stoner cornet with the same style of bracing and it has a nice rich cornet sound. Everywhere I play it I receive comments on how good it sounds. It also helps having a "V" cup mouthpiece.

Dr. Stu · 10-21-2005, 01:22 AM

Now waiting for the horn to come in the mail. Can't wait to see if it plays as great as it looks. (I have a feeling it does.) Take a look...

Does Garry do beautiful work !!!

-Stu

Clarence · 10-22-2005, 02:55 PM

beautiful horn ,hwo doe,s it sound?

Dr. Stu · 10-22-2005, 04:33 PM

Clarence,

Those are the pis Garry sent me. I should get the horn sometime next week. I'll surely post after I play it.

-Stu

Clarence · 10-22-2005, 04:44 PM

i like the Pheaton braceing.

pwillini · 10-27-2005, 09:11 AM

So, have you decided on the finish yet? What about engraving that beautiful copper bell?

10-01-2005, 10:54 AM	#1 (permalink)
Dr. Stu New Friend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 38	My Stoner Olds Coprion Conversion Well, I finally did it. After losing out on a couple of these beautiful horns, I decided to send my own to Garry for the full Monte. Here is a current picture of my '53 Ambassador Cornet in Garry's shop. Ouch. I'm going with the Conn 17A Coprion bell, Amado's, Garry's custom copper bracing & 3rd slide finger ring. We're going for a sound that is “Awesome… Sexy…Dark & Vibrant” (I love that description) which is the way some of Garry's previous creations with the 17A have been described. I'm going with the scratched (or is it brushed) finish/clear lacquer look for the body and bell and like the polished bell interior, but I had a tough time deciding. (Opinion's please!) I thought that a brushed or scratched finish would be better for a darker sounding horn, but I do like the highlighting provided by the polished bell interior. I'll post about the progress & the before & after's when I get the horn - Stu

10-08-2005, 01:07 PM	#2 (permalink)
Dr. Stu New Friend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 38	90 views & no comments? Well, I'll post the next picture anyway. Bell, mouthpipe, and receiver mounted, slides fitted, brace patterns drawn. Next step is to cut, fit & place the sheet copper braces. Anyone have one of these conversions & want to comment.? Any comment on the finish choice? (I still have some time to decide). -Stu [img][/img]

10-08-2005, 03:31 PM	#4 (permalink)
pwillini Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 135	Scratch gold plate all but the bell. Get Jason Dumars to engrave the entire bell then have it lacquered. http://dumarsengraving.com
	__________________ Music's only purpose should be the glory of God and the recreation of the human spirit - J. S. Bach 2004 ZeuS Olympus ARLX 1976 Bach 37 Strad 1990 Blessing ML1-G Artist Edition 1917 Conn Victor New Wonder Cornet

10-22-2005, 02:55 PM	#7 (permalink)
Clarence Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 734	beautiful horn ,hwo doe,s it sound?
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10-22-2005, 04:44 PM	#9 (permalink)
Clarence Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: san diego Posts: 734	i like the Pheaton braceing.
	__________________ You heard it here 1st, in what ever u do if u buy the ticket u take the ride! Stage 1XH Bb Phaeton 2030 Bb Jupiter flugle 846bl black Kersting Pocket trumpet Stage1 MP schilke 11 MP Sdsytems LCM77 wireless Shure PGX wireless

10-08-2005, 01:26 PM	#3 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Its looking pretty nice. I kinda "wonder" about the sheet bracing but the proof will be in the pudding (or playing)... as they say. You'll have to let us know how it actually plays and sounds once finished.

10-08-2005, 04:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
VINTAGEBRASS Pianissimo User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Branson Brand: Monette/Stage One Posts: 102	I have a Stoner cornet with the same style of bracing and it has a nice rich cornet sound. Everywhere I play it I receive comments on how good it sounds. It also helps having a "V" cup mouthpiece.

10-21-2005, 01:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
Dr. Stu New Friend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 38	Now waiting for the horn to come in the mail. Can't wait to see if it plays as great as it looks. (I have a feeling it does.) Take a look... Does Garry do beautiful work !!! -Stu

10-22-2005, 04:33 PM	#8 (permalink)
Dr. Stu New Friend Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New York, NY Posts: 38	Clarence, Those are the pis Garry sent me. I should get the horn sometime next week. I'll surely post after I play it. -Stu

10-27-2005, 09:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
pwillini Pianissimo User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kalamazoo, MI Posts: 135	So, have you decided on the finish yet? What about engraving that beautiful copper bell?
	__________________ Music's only purpose should be the glory of God and the recreation of the human spirit - J. S. Bach 2004 ZeuS Olympus ARLX 1976 Bach 37 Strad 1990 Blessing ML1-G Artist Edition 1917 Conn Victor New Wonder Cornet

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