mystery horn?? (Canadian Brass Getzen perhaps?)

eisprl · 12-17-2008, 12:14 PM

Hey all. I found this horn at work today and I have no idea what it is. (well I have an idea) the only markings on it are "Canadian Brass". The valves are (I believe) getzen valves. The horn was found in a Getzen case. So I am led to believe that it's a getzen but does anyone know the history behind these "Canadian Brass" getzens?

TrentAustin · 12-17-2008, 12:36 PM

yep... getzen (allied valves) assembled. Nice horns IIRC.

thebugleboy · 12-17-2008, 12:43 PM

I think Getzen took over distribution of Canadian Brass in 1995.

thebugleboy · 12-17-2008, 12:53 PM

The Allied-Getzen CB trumpet is basically an Eterna, and I believe sold in an Eterna case or bag. If it was made after the Getzen family regained the company, it very likely has the better valves, as some time after 1991 and before 1995, Getzen quit using the Monel valves (they didn't like the valves...the metal doesn't stay so hard after the heat treating process). I think you have a Getzen distributed horn. Check the numbers. Looks good. Conbratulations.

thebugleboy · 12-17-2008, 01:06 PM

One last note. After around 1997, I think the Canadian Brass began using and marketing a Yamaha built line of brass. I doubt, if it's original anyway, the Yamaha model would be in a Getzen case. It's a fine instrument either way. The Canadian Brass are going to use good instruments. Check the numbers and let us know.

eisprl · 12-17-2008, 05:18 PM

All right then. I received a response from Getzen in case anyone else was curious.

The model is CB10-GL, from 1994. It is gold lacquer finish. Canadian Brass Bb Trumpet. The Getzen Co. made the Canadian Brass line from approx. 1991-1994-5. The CB line was designed by and for the Canadian Brass group. It is a medium large bore. .460". Has a yellow brass bell. In 1994 MSRP was US$1395.00.

FYI

Bob Grier · 12-17-2008, 09:39 PM

Before they played the Getzens the Canadian Brass all played gold plated Yamaha instruments that had been fine tuned by Schilke. in fact the tuba had Schilke on the bell. only one I've ever seen

thebugleboy · 12-18-2008, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Grier

Before they played the Getzens the Canadian Brass all played gold plated Yamaha instruments that had been fine tuned by Schilke. in fact the tuba had Schilke on the bell. only one I've ever seen

I didn't know that one. I think I'd just as soon have a Schilke fine tuned by Schilke. Nothing against Yamaha, just never drove one.

Bob Grier · 12-18-2008, 08:46 PM

yep that's what Ronald Romm told me. You know I thought the same thing at the time. Why not just have a Schilke?

thebugleboy · 12-18-2008, 11:38 PM

Actually when I was teaching I tried out a lot of the student models of various Yamaha instruments, but never their quality ones. I understand they have some nice horns to offer. I remember when the "motorcycle" brands were not well accepted, but a fine instrument can come from virtually anywhere. I have a Suzuki mandolin I bought in '75. It's a great looker...a strake backed "tater bug" style body.

12-17-2008, 12:14 PM	#1
eisprl Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Halifax, NS CANADA Posts: 560	mystery horn?? (Canadian Brass Getzen perhaps?) Hey all. I found this horn at work today and I have no idea what it is. (well I have an idea) the only markings on it are "Canadian Brass". The valves are (I believe) getzen valves. The horn was found in a Getzen case. So I am led to believe that it's a getzen but does anyone know the history behind these "Canadian Brass" getzens? __________________ Eric Sproul Practice is like filling a leaky bucket Bb: Yamaha Xeno 8335 Flugel: Hub Van Laar ACK Mouthpieces: GR tech, Bobby Shew Flugel mp www.stadband.ca

12-17-2008, 12:36 PM	#2
TrentAustin Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 2,058	Re: mystery horn?? (Canadian Brass Getzen perhaps?) yep... getzen (allied valves) assembled. Nice horns IIRC. __________________ http://trentaustinmusic.com Consultant, S.E. Shires Trumpets Shires B59BLW "TA" model Bb trumpet Adams Gold Brass Flugelhorn Wedge Mouthpieces PM me for an appointment to try a Shires!

12-17-2008, 12:43 PM	#3
thebugleboy Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep South Posts: 103	Re: mystery horn?? (Canadian Brass Getzen perhaps?) I think Getzen took over distribution of Canadian Brass in 1995. __________________ old trumpetman Ex-instructor Martin Schilke Besson Connstellation 38B Lots of junk Washburn guitars (with autographs) Wood sculptor and primitive flute maker Gearhead '69 Falcon '71 IH 800B Scout '81 Camaro '86 VW conv. '96 Supercharged Riviera (never been beat...yet)

12-17-2008, 12:53 PM	#4
thebugleboy Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep South Posts: 103	Re: mystery horn?? (Canadian Brass Getzen perhaps?) The Allied-Getzen CB trumpet is basically an Eterna, and I believe sold in an Eterna case or bag. If it was made after the Getzen family regained the company, it very likely has the better valves, as some time after 1991 and before 1995, Getzen quit using the Monel valves (they didn't like the valves...the metal doesn't stay so hard after the heat treating process). I think you have a Getzen distributed horn. Check the numbers. Looks good. Conbratulations. __________________ old trumpetman Ex-instructor Martin Schilke Besson Connstellation 38B Lots of junk Washburn guitars (with autographs) Wood sculptor and primitive flute maker Gearhead '69 Falcon '71 IH 800B Scout '81 Camaro '86 VW conv. '96 Supercharged Riviera (never been beat...yet)

12-17-2008, 01:06 PM	#5
thebugleboy Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep South Posts: 103	Re: mystery horn?? (Canadian Brass Getzen perhaps?) One last note. After around 1997, I think the Canadian Brass began using and marketing a Yamaha built line of brass. I doubt, if it's original anyway, the Yamaha model would be in a Getzen case. It's a fine instrument either way. The Canadian Brass are going to use good instruments. Check the numbers and let us know. __________________ old trumpetman Ex-instructor Martin Schilke Besson Connstellation 38B Lots of junk Washburn guitars (with autographs) Wood sculptor and primitive flute maker Gearhead '69 Falcon '71 IH 800B Scout '81 Camaro '86 VW conv. '96 Supercharged Riviera (never been beat...yet)

12-17-2008, 05:18 PM	#6
eisprl Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Halifax, NS CANADA Posts: 560	Re: mystery horn?? (Canadian Brass Getzen perhaps?) All right then. I received a response from Getzen in case anyone else was curious. The model is CB10-GL, from 1994. It is gold lacquer finish. Canadian Brass Bb Trumpet. The Getzen Co. made the Canadian Brass line from approx. 1991-1994-5. The CB line was designed by and for the Canadian Brass group. It is a medium large bore. .460". Has a yellow brass bell. In 1994 MSRP was US$1395.00. FYI __________________ Eric Sproul Practice is like filling a leaky bucket Bb: Yamaha Xeno 8335 Flugel: Hub Van Laar ACK Mouthpieces: GR tech, Bobby Shew Flugel mp www.stadband.ca

12-17-2008, 09:39 PM	#7
Bob Grier Mezzo Forte User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 743	Re: mystery horn?? (Canadian Brass Getzen perhaps?) Before they played the Getzens the Canadian Brass all played gold plated Yamaha instruments that had been fine tuned by Schilke. in fact the tuba had Schilke on the bell. only one I've ever seen __________________ Bob Grier, An Old Pro Web Cam trumpet & jazz improvisation lessons bgrierjr@triad.rr.com Schilke B5 GB bell NY Bach ML 37GB Bb 1949 Benge 7X 1985 Conn 22B 1940s King Liberty Silversonic 1975 King Master Model Siversonic cornet 1975 1985 Bach C L 229GB 25A 1985 Bach D ML 239 1985 Bach Eb ML 239 1967 Martin C ML rose brass bell 1985 Selmer Paris Picc with Osmun A pipe & Blackburn Bb pipe 1975 Getzen Eterna Flugelhorn 1985 Yamaha YFH 635T Flugelhorn

12-18-2008, 08:46 PM	#9
Bob Grier Mezzo Forte User Join Date: May 2007 Location: Greensboro, NC Posts: 743	Re: mystery horn?? (Canadian Brass Getzen perhaps?) yep that's what Ronald Romm told me. You know I thought the same thing at the time. Why not just have a Schilke? __________________ Bob Grier, An Old Pro Web Cam trumpet & jazz improvisation lessons bgrierjr@triad.rr.com Schilke B5 GB bell NY Bach ML 37GB Bb 1949 Benge 7X 1985 Conn 22B 1940s King Liberty Silversonic 1975 King Master Model Siversonic cornet 1975 1985 Bach C L 229GB 25A 1985 Bach D ML 239 1985 Bach Eb ML 239 1967 Martin C ML rose brass bell 1985 Selmer Paris Picc with Osmun A pipe & Blackburn Bb pipe 1975 Getzen Eterna Flugelhorn 1985 Yamaha YFH 635T Flugelhorn Last edited by Bob Grier; 12-19-2008 at 08:23 PM.

12-18-2008, 11:38 PM	#10
thebugleboy Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Deep South Posts: 103	Re: mystery horn?? (Canadian Brass Getzen perhaps?) Actually when I was teaching I tried out a lot of the student models of various Yamaha instruments, but never their quality ones. I understand they have some nice horns to offer. I remember when the "motorcycle" brands were not well accepted, but a fine instrument can come from virtually anywhere. I have a Suzuki mandolin I bought in '75. It's a great looker...a strake backed "tater bug" style body. __________________ old trumpetman Ex-instructor Martin Schilke Besson Connstellation 38B Lots of junk Washburn guitars (with autographs) Wood sculptor and primitive flute maker Gearhead '69 Falcon '71 IH 800B Scout '81 Camaro '86 VW conv. '96 Supercharged Riviera (never been beat...yet)

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