New Horns - Page 2

MFfan · 11-03-2009, 01:14 AM

Thanks guys! I am probably older than Ed and Glen and CBK, but not older than OLDLOU, my mentor and guru. I just turned 67 with no immediate damages known from a delicious birthday Apple pie made by my wife, Deb. Glad Ed found a compatible MP fairly easily.
Vintage Lemar and Lyrical trumpets - eBay (item 140355187639 end time Nov-01-09 17:31:21 PST)

Here are the ones I got, mentioned in an earlier post. Stencils that should be workable.

Darthsunshine · 11-03-2009, 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by MFfan

Thanks guys! I am probably older than Ed and Glen and CBK, but not older than OLDLOU, my mentor and guru. I just turned 67 with no immediate damages known from a delicious birthday Apple pie made by my wife, Deb.

You're a few years ahead of me. I'll be 51 in January. Yikes! Enjoying my horn playing more than ever though. Also enjoying this forum too! My regards to Mrs. MFan

edcon1981 · 11-03-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Darthsunshine

Ed: That's a beautiful 'lil cornet you've got there. Glad it's working out for you!

Yeah, these two cornets are alot of fun to play. I got a chance to put the Harwood through the ringer for a couple hours last night and it played just as well as the LeFevre... considering they're clones the only difference I felt was in the valve action.

The Harwood is very badly tarnished though. Both horns are silver plated, is it possible to strip that silver plating down to the raw brass? I have no clue how silver plating works...

veery715 · 11-03-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by edcon1981

Yeah, these two cornets are alot of fun to play. I got a chance to put the Harwood through the ringer for a couple hours last night and it played just as well as the LeFevre... considering they're clones the only difference I felt was in the valve action.

The Harwood is very badly tarnished though. Both horns are silver plated, is it possible to strip that silver plating down to the raw brass? I have no clue how silver plating works...

Do a search on aluminum foil - baking soda anti-tarnish bath, and give the horn one. Very little work, and it will help clean out the inside too. Essentially it reverses the deposition of sulfur into the silver (silver sulfide is tarnish) and sticks it on the foil, leaving all the silver where it belongs.

Fun with science!

veery

MFfan · 11-03-2009, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Darthsunshine

You're a few years ahead of me. I'll be 51 in January. Yikes! Enjoying my horn playing more than ever though. Also enjoying this forum too! My regards to Mrs. MFan

Thanks, Glen. What's even better, she is an excellent flutist , pianist and our church organist, so we have enjoyed making music together for 38 yrs this month, plus her cooking and seamstress skills. I always wonder how I got so lucky,not that is something she would remind me about.

edcon1981 · 11-03-2009, 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by veery715

Do a search on aluminum foil - baking soda anti-tarnish bath, and give the horn one. Very little work, and it will help clean out the inside too. Essentially it reverses the deposition of sulfur into the silver (silver sulfide is tarnish) and sticks it on the foil, leaving all the silver where it belongs.

Fun with science!

veery

yeah, after i posted my query i did a quick search on that. how effective is it? the "tarnish" that's on the Harwood almost looks like a layer of rust... but neither brass nor silver rust. Do they? Or is that truly just tarnish?

edcon1981 · 11-03-2009, 03:24 PM

curious... can the aluminum foil required be the pan? what if i were to use a foil roasting pan instead of a plastic tub with a sheet of aluminum in it? would that serve the same purpose?

Sturmbill · 11-03-2009, 04:32 PM

EdCon,

Don't know if you have seen the Curry Vintage cornet mouthpieces:

Curry Precision Mouthpieces | Cornet Mouthpieces

It might be an acceptable replacement for the original that won't tire you out...

Hope it works for you. I like the way it sounds and feels on my early 1900s Millard cornet!

Bill

edcon1981 · 11-03-2009, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by edcon1981

curious... can the aluminum foil required be the pan? what if i were to use a foil roasting pan instead of a plastic tub with a sheet of aluminum in it? would that serve the same purpose?

UPDATE: well, ,it worked, but it had an adverse affect... the existing silver plating turned black. the foil was covered in tarnish, but it didn't "clean" it. good thing i tried it on one slide first.

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Originally Posted by Sturmbill

EdCon,

Don't know if you have seen the Curry Vintage cornet mouthpieces:

Curry Precision Mouthpieces | Cornet Mouthpieces

It might be an acceptable replacement for the original that won't tire you out...

Hope it works for you. I like the way it sounds and feels on my early 1900s Millard cornet!

Bill

i did pick up a new bach cornet mpc that fits the bill, but i'll look into your site. a mpc that goes with the period would be more acceptable. thanks!

edcon1981 · 11-03-2009, 11:05 PM

I stand corrected, the foil/baking soda/salt method worked. i just needed to hand polish it afterward. i only tried it with two slides, but here's a perfect "before / after" shot of how well it worked:

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MFfan Forte User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 1,690	Re: New Horns Thanks guys! I am probably older than Ed and Glen and CBK, but not older than OLDLOU, my mentor and guru. I just turned 67 with no immediate damages known from a delicious birthday Apple pie made by my wife, Deb. Glad Ed found a compatible MP fairly easily. Vintage Lemar and Lyrical trumpets - eBay (item 140355187639 end time Nov-01-09 17:31:21 PST) Here are the ones I got, mentioned in an earlier post. Stencils that should be workable. __________________ Dave Rafferty Lemar Trumpet (peashooter-Conn?) Lyrical Trumpet (Tokan) Besson 609 Trumpet 1955-60 Besson 8-10 Trumpet 1948 Besson cornet 1946 King Master Cornet www.kalamazooconcertband.org

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edcon1981 Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Philly Posts: 801	Re: New Horns curious... can the aluminum foil required be the pan? what if i were to use a foil roasting pan instead of a plastic tub with a sheet of aluminum in it? would that serve the same purpose? __________________ Ed Con... 1890's (est) LeFevre 691 Cornet 1890's (est) Harwood "Solo Model" Cornet 1954 Olds (LA) Ambassador Cornet 1956 Olds (EF) Ambassador Trumpet 1989 Selmer Bundy Trumpet 2007 Kanstul KSB100 3-Valve Bugle "Villains always have antidotes... they're funny that way. "

11-03-2009, 04:32 PM	#18
Sturmbill Pianissimo User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Harrisonburg, VA Posts: 94	Re: New Horns EdCon, Don't know if you have seen the Curry Vintage cornet mouthpieces: Curry Precision Mouthpieces \| Cornet Mouthpieces It might be an acceptable replacement for the original that won't tire you out... Hope it works for you. I like the way it sounds and feels on my early 1900s Millard cornet! Bill __________________ A wise man once said "Learn to write your hurts in sand, and carve your blessings in stone." Last edited by Sturmbill; 11-03-2009 at 04:58 PM.

11-03-2009, 11:05 PM	#20
edcon1981 Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Philly Posts: 801	Re: New Horns I stand corrected, the foil/baking soda/salt method worked. i just needed to hand polish it afterward. i only tried it with two slides, but here's a perfect "before / after" shot of how well it worked: __________________ Ed Con... 1890's (est) LeFevre 691 Cornet 1890's (est) Harwood "Solo Model" Cornet 1954 Olds (LA) Ambassador Cornet 1956 Olds (EF) Ambassador Trumpet 1989 Selmer Bundy Trumpet 2007 Kanstul KSB100 3-Valve Bugle "Villains always have antidotes... they're funny that way. "

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