New Horns

edcon1981 · 11-01-2009, 11:05 PM

I picked up a pair of cornets off ebay, one a LeFevre stamped "Paris 691", the other a Harwood "Solo Model". They are both identical, so I'm assuming the Harwood is a clone of the Lefevre... and that assumption is based solely on the fact that I've heard of LeFevre and not Harwood.

While both horns need some lovin, the LeFevre is in much better shape regarding looks and playability... and is now the favorite of my collection. I love this horn and immediately felt "natural" to me. It's sound is crisp and clean, slots easily, and has excellent range.

Here's the LeFevre:

Can anyone give me a roundabout year on either of these horns? I can't find anything.

MFfan · 11-02-2009, 12:08 PM

http://www.horn-u-copia.net/cgi-bin/...num=1231646323

Here is the lefevre page off Horn-u-copia.
Cornets

I would say the cornets are at least 100 yrs old, but not certain of exact age.

edcon1981 · 11-02-2009, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by MFfan

http://www.horn-u-copia.net/cgi-bin/...num=1231646323

Here is the lefevre page off Horn-u-copia.
Cornets

I would say the cornets are at least 100 yrs old, but not certain of exact age.

thanks! yeah, based on the only pictures i've seen of LeFevres online I'm putting them between the 1890's and 1900's. now i have to compare them to the LeFevres in my brass band, of which we know the years...

and blast you for making me join another horn forum! i had to register with horn-u-copia to see that page... oh well, just another distraction to keep me sane at work!

MFfan · 11-02-2009, 01:43 PM

Ha, sorry about that. HUC is a great resource, especially now that you are getting more into the vintage horn scene. At least they will send an automated 'Happy Birthday", as they did to me today, also Trumpet master chipped in with exactly the same script. I am always in favor of bolstering the mental health of trumpet players.

edcon1981 · 11-02-2009, 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFfan

Ha, sorry about that. HUC is a great resource, especially now that you are getting more into the vintage horn scene. At least they will send an automated 'Happy Birthday", as they did to me today, also Trumpet master chipped in with exactly the same script. I am always in favor of bolstering the mental health of trumpet players.

i'm definitely going to have to browse HUC tonight. i don't know what it is about the vintage horns, i suppose it has a lot to do with me being a history buff. i'm not really attracted to the modern, expensive beauties... take that in whatever context you see fit ; )

after playing that LeFevre on a modern mouthpiece (my chops were shot after a half hour of playing on the antique mpc it came with) i doubt i'll by anything other than an antique or vintage horn again.

and happy birthday!

MFfan · 11-02-2009, 03:33 PM

Thanks, Ed. I appreciate it. Many sites you register with will send robotic wishes. I have an ancient cookie cutter mp that OLDLOU gave me to try on an old Concertone cornet I don't have anymore. I have tried it lately on my current ones, but it is tiring and doesn't play the same as the new ones as far as volume or tone quality. I would just like to find a more modern Deep V cup for the cornets and not pay much. It might happen! I am a history buff also so have a natural affinity for relic's and have owned a few!
Good luck with your new interests. I have just won a couple of vintage trumpets to mess around with.

edcon1981 · 11-02-2009, 03:51 PM

I liked the way the "cookie cutter" (i like that description) played, i just couldn't tolerate it for long.

On saturday i was forced to head over to sam ash in an attempt to find a suitable mouthpiece, all i have are trumpet mpc's. I compared a few bach cornet mpc's, and the closest i could find comparing cups was a 3D... i tested it in their practice room and i really liked that mouthpiece with the LeFevre.

when i got home and was finally able to put the combination through the ringer everything just "clicked". in fact last night i played for about three hours straight just for the fun of it and fell in love with the combination.

ComeBackKid · 11-02-2009, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFfan

...HUC ...will send an automated 'Happy Birthday", as they did to me today, also Trumpet master...

Happy Birthday, Dave. If you keep this up, you'll catch up with me someday (I quit having them - it was too stressful).

Darthsunshine · 11-02-2009, 07:10 PM

Ed: That's a beautiful 'lil cornet you've got there. Glad it's working out for you.

Dave: Happy Birthday!

oldlou · 11-02-2009, 07:39 PM

Happy birthday david!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Oldlou>>

11-01-2009, 11:05 PM	#1
edcon1981 Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Philly Posts: 801	New Horns I picked up a pair of cornets off ebay, one a LeFevre stamped "Paris 691", the other a Harwood "Solo Model". They are both identical, so I'm assuming the Harwood is a clone of the Lefevre... and that assumption is based solely on the fact that I've heard of LeFevre and not Harwood. While both horns need some lovin, the LeFevre is in much better shape regarding looks and playability... and is now the favorite of my collection. I love this horn and immediately felt "natural" to me. It's sound is crisp and clean, slots easily, and has excellent range. Here's the LeFevre: Can anyone give me a roundabout year on either of these horns? I can't find anything. __________________ Ed Con... 1890's (est) LeFevre 691 Cornet 1890's (est) Harwood "Solo Model" Cornet 1954 Olds (LA) Ambassador Cornet 1956 Olds (EF) Ambassador Trumpet 1989 Selmer Bundy Trumpet 2007 Kanstul KSB100 3-Valve Bugle "Villains always have antidotes... they're funny that way. "

11-02-2009, 12:08 PM	#2
MFfan Forte User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 1,690	Re: New Horns http://www.horn-u-copia.net/cgi-bin/...num=1231646323 Here is the lefevre page off Horn-u-copia. Cornets I would say the cornets are at least 100 yrs old, but not certain of exact age. __________________ Dave Rafferty Lemar Trumpet (peashooter-Conn?) Lyrical Trumpet (Tokan) Besson 609 Trumpet 1955-60 Besson 8-10 Trumpet 1948 Besson cornet 1946 King Master Cornet www.kalamazooconcertband.org

11-02-2009, 01:43 PM	#4
MFfan Forte User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 1,690	Re: New Horns Ha, sorry about that. HUC is a great resource, especially now that you are getting more into the vintage horn scene. At least they will send an automated 'Happy Birthday", as they did to me today, also Trumpet master chipped in with exactly the same script. I am always in favor of bolstering the mental health of trumpet players. __________________ Dave Rafferty Lemar Trumpet (peashooter-Conn?) Lyrical Trumpet (Tokan) Besson 609 Trumpet 1955-60 Besson 8-10 Trumpet 1948 Besson cornet 1946 King Master Cornet www.kalamazooconcertband.org

11-02-2009, 03:33 PM	#6
MFfan Forte User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 1,690	Re: New Horns Thanks, Ed. I appreciate it. Many sites you register with will send robotic wishes. I have an ancient cookie cutter mp that OLDLOU gave me to try on an old Concertone cornet I don't have anymore. I have tried it lately on my current ones, but it is tiring and doesn't play the same as the new ones as far as volume or tone quality. I would just like to find a more modern Deep V cup for the cornets and not pay much. It might happen! I am a history buff also so have a natural affinity for relic's and have owned a few! Good luck with your new interests. I have just won a couple of vintage trumpets to mess around with. __________________ Dave Rafferty Lemar Trumpet (peashooter-Conn?) Lyrical Trumpet (Tokan) Besson 609 Trumpet 1955-60 Besson 8-10 Trumpet 1948 Besson cornet 1946 King Master Cornet www.kalamazooconcertband.org

11-02-2009, 03:51 PM	#7
edcon1981 Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Philly Posts: 801	Re: New Horns I liked the way the "cookie cutter" (i like that description) played, i just couldn't tolerate it for long. On saturday i was forced to head over to sam ash in an attempt to find a suitable mouthpiece, all i have are trumpet mpc's. I compared a few bach cornet mpc's, and the closest i could find comparing cups was a 3D... i tested it in their practice room and i really liked that mouthpiece with the LeFevre. when i got home and was finally able to put the combination through the ringer everything just "clicked". in fact last night i played for about three hours straight just for the fun of it and fell in love with the combination. __________________ Ed Con... 1890's (est) LeFevre 691 Cornet 1890's (est) Harwood "Solo Model" Cornet 1954 Olds (LA) Ambassador Cornet 1956 Olds (EF) Ambassador Trumpet 1989 Selmer Bundy Trumpet 2007 Kanstul KSB100 3-Valve Bugle "Villains always have antidotes... they're funny that way. "

11-02-2009, 07:10 PM	#9
Darthsunshine Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 551	Re: New Horns Ed: That's a beautiful 'lil cornet you've got there. Glad it's working out for you. Dave: Happy Birthday! __________________ Glen Ferguson 1977 LA Benge 3C 1976 LA Benge 3X+ 1972 LA Benge 5x 1963 Burbank Benge Eb/D 1959 Olds Amb. cornet w/ Getzen shep crook bell

11-02-2009, 07:39 PM	#10
oldlou Forte User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 1,242	Re: New Horns Happy birthday david!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Oldlou>> __________________ Couturier trumpet York Master Model trumpet York Elite trumpet York Airflow cornet King super 20 Master Model cornet King Liberty trumpet Reynolds Professional cornet Bohm & Meinl professional trumpet Besson 10-10 trumpet with Holton M.F. bell Olds Special cornet Los Angeles B&H Sovereign cornet G.R.Band Instr. cornet Getzen Super Deluxe trumpet and cornet Getzen Deluxe trumpet and cornet Many others no room to list

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