Piccolo Trumpet Recommendations

Roy · 06-12-2008, 10:28 AM

I've narrowed my search down to the following:

Yamaha YTR 9830
Schilke P7-4
Kanstul CCT-920

Haven't tried these yet ... hope to soon. Mostly will be used for brass quintet work. Interested in a larger bore horn.

Your thoughts are appreciated.

Roy

RG111 · 06-12-2008, 11:10 AM

Roy,

I would suggest you give a Scherzer rotary a try before you invest. You may well prefer the others, but it would be worth a try considering the cash outlay.
Good luck!

Roy Griffin

MJ · 06-12-2008, 11:34 AM

Is the P7-4 the new model?

Roy · 06-12-2008, 11:36 AM

Yes, it seem so.

gchun · 06-12-2008, 12:55 PM

I was set on buying a Kanstul CCT-920. Just before purchasing one, I got a chance to try the new Bach VBS 196 piccolo trumpet. I ended up getting the Bach. Thought it was freer blowing and I was able to get a bigger sound with less tension. I prefer it to the P5-4.

If you can find one, I think it is definitely worth trying out.

Garry

jtownsend · 06-12-2008, 02:25 PM

I tried out the shilke and i was not to keen on it, i went with the stomvi elite picc, i liked it a lot.

rowuk · 06-12-2008, 03:09 PM

I have tried them all and they are all fine horns. I think that I could live with any of them.

I tried the Schilke recently at the Frankfurt Musikmesse. It sounds like a Schilke, is in tune like a Schilke and is sooo easy to play, but that is exactly what I though about the other two instruments too. If you only get to play one of them and you like it, buy it. Always play before you pay!!!!!!!!

65Strad · 06-12-2008, 09:06 PM

Like gchun I also bought the Bach VBS 196 as an aternative the the Schilke P5-4.

Much more free blowing and a great tone/sound. Has a Reeves alignment, an A and Bb pipe. Also a small "G" slide to play Picc parts in G.

I have heard that the the Schilke P-7 is much more free blowing the the P5-4.

If you come across the new Bach VBS 196 before you make a purchase, you may like gchun, decide that it may be the horn for you. Good luck and let us know how you made out.

Stomvi has a hand in the manufacture in the Bach. The Elite has a similar but not identical look, but per KO at Reeves, a completely different horn "inside" air column, alignment.

MJ · 06-12-2008, 10:36 PM

All of the pics you mentioned are good horns IMHO. Try before you buy. And if price is a factor I'm sure the Kanstul is a strong option.

06-12-2008, 10:28 AM	#1 (permalink)
Roy New Friend Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 8	Piccolo Trumpet Recommendations I've narrowed my search down to the following: Yamaha YTR 9830 Schilke P7-4 Kanstul CCT-920 Haven't tried these yet ... hope to soon. Mostly will be used for brass quintet work. Interested in a larger bore horn. Your thoughts are appreciated. Roy

06-12-2008, 11:10 AM	#2 (permalink)
RG111 Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 276	Re: Piccolo Trumpet Recommendations Roy, I would suggest you give a Scherzer rotary a try before you invest. You may well prefer the others, but it would be worth a try considering the cash outlay. Good luck! Roy Griffin

06-12-2008, 11:34 AM	#3 (permalink)
MJ Forte User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Naptown Posts: 1,934	Re: Piccolo Trumpet Recommendations Is the P7-4 the new model? __________________

06-12-2008, 11:36 AM	#4 (permalink)
Roy New Friend Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 8	Re: Piccolo Trumpet Recommendations Yes, it seem so.

06-12-2008, 12:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
gchun Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 125	Re: Piccolo Trumpet Recommendations I was set on buying a Kanstul CCT-920. Just before purchasing one, I got a chance to try the new Bach VBS 196 piccolo trumpet. I ended up getting the Bach. Thought it was freer blowing and I was able to get a bigger sound with less tension. I prefer it to the P5-4. If you can find one, I think it is definitely worth trying out. Garry

06-12-2008, 02:25 PM	#6 (permalink)
jtownsend New Friend Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Valencia and Glendale Posts: 8	Re: Piccolo Trumpet Recommendations I tried out the shilke and i was not to keen on it, i went with the stomvi elite picc, i liked it a lot.

06-12-2008, 03:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
rowuk Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Germany Posts: 4,374	Re: Piccolo Trumpet Recommendations I have tried them all and they are all fine horns. I think that I could live with any of them. I tried the Schilke recently at the Frankfurt Musikmesse. It sounds like a Schilke, is in tune like a Schilke and is sooo easy to play, but that is exactly what I though about the other two instruments too. If you only get to play one of them and you like it, buy it. Always play before you pay!!!!!!!! __________________ Whenever I feel blue, I start breathing again.

06-12-2008, 09:06 PM	#8 (permalink)
65Strad New Friend Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Brick, New Jersey Posts: 48	Re: Piccolo Trumpet Recommendations Like gchun I also bought the Bach VBS 196 as an aternative the the Schilke P5-4. Much more free blowing and a great tone/sound. Has a Reeves alignment, an A and Bb pipe. Also a small "G" slide to play Picc parts in G. I have heard that the the Schilke P-7 is much more free blowing the the P5-4. If you come across the new Bach VBS 196 before you make a purchase, you may like gchun, decide that it may be the horn for you. Good luck and let us know how you made out. Stomvi has a hand in the manufacture in the Bach. The Elite has a similar but not identical look, but per KO at Reeves, a completely different horn "inside" air column, alignment. __________________ Tom D'Antoni '65 Bach 181 37 SN#30836 Brand New '66 Bach 180 37 SN#39773 Brand New '69 Bach 181 37 SN#58831 Raw Brass '72 Bach 180S 43 SN#70503 1st Valve Trigger '05 Bach VBS 196 SN# 560142 A/Bb Piccolo '07 Bach Chicago C SN#656602 Last edited by 65Strad; 06-12-2008 at 09:09 PM.

06-12-2008, 10:36 PM	#9 (permalink)
MJ Forte User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Naptown Posts: 1,934	Re: Piccolo Trumpet Recommendations All of the pics you mentioned are good horns IMHO. Try before you buy. And if price is a factor I'm sure the Kanstul is a strong option. __________________

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