question on Jupiter horns

dwindham · 08-16-2006, 12:13 PM

I have never heard of them and found one local for $50. Is this worth it for a horn for my kids to learn on?

Its a Jupiter Trumpet model JTR-606

thanks

Tootsall · 08-16-2006, 01:56 PM

It really depends on when the Jupiter was built. The first ones (older than 6, 7 years) were of very low quality. About 1998 or so the factory was retooled and improvements were noticeable, especially in the middle and upper end horns. Jupiter is generally considered to be a copy of Yamaha but by a Taiwanese firm with production facilities in mainland China.

For learning purposes (the first year or two), you aren't liable to do much better than $50 provided the instrument has working valves and plays half-ways in tune. Perhaps some of the teachers on this board can comment if they've had students come across this particular model or had other experience with them.

Clarence · 08-16-2006, 08:06 PM

hey i,ve had a flugle jupiter and it was real nice.
cant go wrong for $50.oo.
they play wide open.

Vulgano Brother · 08-16-2006, 09:46 PM

They are generally fine playing horns, but make sure the slides move and that there are no dents in the leadpipe. The valves have had a bad habit of wearing out quickly and getting sticky (look for discoloration) -- have found that La Tromba valve oil (the white teflon-smelling [like bananas] synthetic stuff) worked great.

dwindham · 08-16-2006, 10:08 PM

turns out they listed it local and on ebay and had 9 responses so now its an ebay war.

mike ansberry · 08-17-2006, 12:16 PM

Tootsall is right on the mark. The early Jupiters were of low quality. The newer ones are pretty good. Look at the valves. It they have dark splotches on them, don't buy it. Jupiter had some valve problems. Their nickel valves are much better than their monel valves.

dwindham · 08-17-2006, 12:56 PM

thanks for all the info. The seller pulled it from ebay stating he just found it has a valve problem so based off that and the advice here I think this one is better left alone.

08-16-2006, 12:13 PM	#1 (permalink)
dwindham Pianissimo User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 85	question on Jupiter horns I have never heard of them and found one local for $50. Is this worth it for a horn for my kids to learn on? Its a Jupiter Trumpet model JTR-606 thanks __________________ Yamaha 6335S 1965 Holton Revelation Cornet 1959 Olds Special 1939 King Liberty 1919 Holton IT Security professional Comeback hobbyist player

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08-16-2006, 09:46 PM	#4 (permalink)
Vulgano Brother Moderator Fortissimo User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Home Posts: 3,265	They are generally fine playing horns, but make sure the slides move and that there are no dents in the leadpipe. The valves have had a bad habit of wearing out quickly and getting sticky (look for discoloration) -- have found that La Tromba valve oil (the white teflon-smelling [like bananas] synthetic stuff) worked great. __________________ "A tool good enough to be so used and not too good" C.S. Lewis That Hideous Strength www.letsbuildhope.org

08-16-2006, 10:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
dwindham Pianissimo User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 85	turns out they listed it local and on ebay and had 9 responses so now its an ebay war. __________________ Yamaha 6335S 1965 Holton Revelation Cornet 1959 Olds Special 1939 King Liberty 1919 Holton IT Security professional Comeback hobbyist player

08-17-2006, 12:16 PM	#6 (permalink)
mike ansberry Piano User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Clarksville, Tennessee, USA Posts: 319	Tootsall is right on the mark. The early Jupiters were of low quality. The newer ones are pretty good. Look at the valves. It they have dark splotches on them, don't buy it. Jupiter had some valve problems. Their nickel valves are much better than their monel valves. __________________ "Music is a fire in your belly that has to come out of your mouth, so you'd better put a horn in the way before someone gets hurt" (paraphrase of Bleeding Gums Murphy)

08-16-2006, 01:56 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	It really depends on when the Jupiter was built. The first ones (older than 6, 7 years) were of very low quality. About 1998 or so the factory was retooled and improvements were noticeable, especially in the middle and upper end horns. Jupiter is generally considered to be a copy of Yamaha but by a Taiwanese firm with production facilities in mainland China. For learning purposes (the first year or two), you aren't liable to do much better than $50 provided the instrument has working valves and plays half-ways in tune. Perhaps some of the teachers on this board can comment if they've had students come across this particular model or had other experience with them.

08-17-2006, 12:56 PM	#7 (permalink)
dwindham Pianissimo User Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 85	thanks for all the info. The seller pulled it from ebay stating he just found it has a valve problem so based off that and the advice here I think this one is better left alone. __________________ Yamaha 6335S 1965 Holton Revelation Cornet 1959 Olds Special 1939 King Liberty 1919 Holton IT Security professional Comeback hobbyist player

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