rose gold

davidjohnson · 12-15-2005, 10:40 AM

can trumpets be rose-gold plated?

dj

Manny Laureano · 12-15-2005, 10:49 AM

Since the "rose" in rose brass comes from a higher copper content, I guess what the larger question really is is, can you plate a horn with two different metals at once? You shop guys, is that right?

ML

Tootsall · 12-15-2005, 10:58 AM

Unless he's thinking of the"pink gold" that jewelers sell; and I don't know what the additional element(s) might be in that to get the colour.

Edit: OK, a little homework was in order.

Rose Gold Jewelry
What is Rose Gold?

Rose gold, also known as pink gold or red gold, is a mixture of pure yellow gold with a high percentage of copper. It has a very subtle and delicate color that may intensify somewhat with age due to a slight, but attractive, tarnishing of the copper.

Rose gold is created by increasing the copper-colored alloys mixed with the gold and decreasing the silver-colored alloys. 14K rose gold contains as much pure gold as 14K yellow gold but, because of the increased copper, is slightly pinker in color. Rose gold is available in 9K, 14K and in 18K gold.

davidjohnson · 12-15-2005, 11:54 AM

does that mean i'm asking can a trumpet be plated with 18k-high copper content gold?? sheesh, i'll just stick with rose gold. can it be done?

dj

Tootsall · 12-15-2005, 12:05 PM

Ask a plater.

davidjohnson · 12-15-2005, 12:17 PM

no platers here? ouch. i just heard from one that a gold plate job today would be $950.

dj

dcstep · 12-15-2005, 02:06 PM

Deal with platers, like Andersens, thru your brass tech (like Melk) and you'll get a better price.

davidjohnson · 12-15-2005, 02:28 PM

that was the price from anderson.

dcstep · 12-15-2005, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by davidjohnson

that was the price from anderson.

You'll be quoted a lower price by Melk and others that prepare the horn and send it to Andersen. Andersen only tells you their retail price, including preparation. There's a wholesale price to resellers and most of them will give you a considerable break over going direct to Andersen.

Dave

Tootsall · 12-15-2005, 05:00 PM

Based on past threads on this subject, do Anderson's include an estimate for the pre-plating prep work (a MAJOR part of the whole job)? I believe that they only concern themselves with the plating itself. Someone like Melk would do the prep work and then include HIS plating cost for a "complete package".

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12-15-2005, 10:49 AM	#2 (permalink)
Manny Laureano Utimate User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: USA Posts: 5,989	Since the "rose" in rose brass comes from a higher copper content, I guess what the larger question really is is, can you plate a horn with two different metals at once? You shop guys, is that right? ML

12-15-2005, 10:58 AM	#3 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Unless he's thinking of the"pink gold" that jewelers sell; and I don't know what the additional element(s) might be in that to get the colour. Edit: OK, a little homework was in order. Rose Gold Jewelry What is Rose Gold? Rose gold, also known as pink gold or red gold, is a mixture of pure yellow gold with a high percentage of copper. It has a very subtle and delicate color that may intensify somewhat with age due to a slight, but attractive, tarnishing of the copper. Rose gold is created by increasing the copper-colored alloys mixed with the gold and decreasing the silver-colored alloys. 14K rose gold contains as much pure gold as 14K yellow gold but, because of the increased copper, is slightly pinker in color. Rose gold is available in 9K, 14K and in 18K gold.

12-15-2005, 11:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
davidjohnson Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: arkansas Posts: 377	does that mean i'm asking can a trumpet be plated with 18k-high copper content gold?? sheesh, i'll just stick with rose gold. can it be done? dj

12-15-2005, 12:05 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Ask a plater.

12-15-2005, 12:17 PM	#6 (permalink)
davidjohnson Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: arkansas Posts: 377	no platers here? ouch. i just heard from one that a gold plate job today would be $950. dj

12-15-2005, 02:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
davidjohnson Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: arkansas Posts: 377	that was the price from anderson.

12-15-2005, 05:00 PM	#10 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	Based on past threads on this subject, do Anderson's include an estimate for the pre-plating prep work (a MAJOR part of the whole job)? I believe that they only concern themselves with the plating itself. Someone like Melk would do the prep work and then include HIS plating cost for a "complete package".

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