rounded tuning slide

yaynor · 12-14-2003, 11:32 AM

HI
Can any one advise me the advantages, if any, to the Bach rounded tuning slide?
Thanks
Jerry

No BS · 12-14-2003, 12:38 PM

They suck...want to buy mine?

dcstep · 12-14-2003, 07:13 PM

They'll make the horn seem freer blowing, but the slotting will be a little less secure. They're not very expensive. Try one if you'd like a freer blowing horn.

Dave

Horn of Praise · 12-14-2003, 07:18 PM

I can't comment on the Bachs, but I'm having one made for my Getzen for $75. Why did I mention this? I have heard many people quote a price in the $150 range, but you can do better.

Be well.

musicalmason · 12-14-2003, 08:26 PM

I had the same question posted on trumpetplayeronline.com didnt get much a response over there, hope more people answer here. I see free blowing, less slotting, but heres my question, high e above the staff is basiclly the hardest note to play on my bach 180s ML 37, how will this slide affect that note?

jamesfrmphilly · 12-14-2003, 09:04 PM

you ask a direct question that no one can answer.
how in the world can someone tell you over the internet how YOUR note will be affected?
buy the slide, put it on your horn and find out for yourself.
or not.

Mikey · 12-14-2003, 09:58 PM

I can give you a general impression, but like James said, you may have to try it for yourself.
What I find with my rounded tuning slide: It does open up the horn, makes the slots more "slippery" and lets you put more air through. Is that good?

It all depends on what you want to feel. Personally I like the regular tuning slide for lead playing, as it slots better above high C.
But, there are other things that contribute to slotting (gap, backbore, etc).

Sorry to be so vague, but there is no cut and dried answer.

Mike

dcstep · 12-14-2003, 10:26 PM

Finger the E above high C with 1-2 and see if that doesn't make it easier. Many horns play that note really flat when played open (my old Yamaha Z, for instance) so that getting the pitch up with the alternative fingering will make it resonate more freely and make it easier to sound. Also, playing the D just above high C is easier when played open on horns that tend to play that note flat.

If your other notes around the E are ok, then the slide will probably NOT help you with the E. Changing the slide is going to change the feel everywhere.

Dave

musicalmason · 12-15-2003, 09:34 AM

Thanks everybody for the responses, I tried the alternate fingering and it seems to be working..

...I also apologize for my ignorance..

dcstep · 12-15-2003, 10:47 AM

It's nice to know when we occasionally get one right. Thanks for reporting your results.

Dave

12-14-2003, 11:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
yaynor New Friend Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4	rounded tuning slide HI Can any one advise me the advantages, if any, to the Bach rounded tuning slide? Thanks Jerry __________________ jerry

12-14-2003, 07:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
dcstep Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 679	They'll make the horn seem freer blowing, but the slotting will be a little less secure. They're not very expensive. Try one if you'd like a freer blowing horn. Dave __________________ Schilke '60 B1 Selmer Paris -- '57 #20 K-Modified/ '03 Concept TT w/ GR66.8B2.8 '94 Lawler TL cornet w/ Sparx 2B Conn Vintage One flugel - GR66FD www.pitpops.com www.ucm-inc.com Rocky Mountain Trumpet Fest

12-14-2003, 07:18 PM	#4 (permalink)
Horn of Praise Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: United States Posts: 191	I can't comment on the Bachs, but I'm having one made for my Getzen for $75. Why did I mention this? I have heard many people quote a price in the $150 range, but you can do better. Be well. __________________ PAUL NELSON - Eclipse White Lightning / Getzen Eterna 900 Classic

12-14-2003, 09:04 PM	#6 (permalink)
jamesfrmphilly Piano User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the north philly ghetto Posts: 366	you ask a direct question that no one can answer. how in the world can someone tell you over the internet how YOUR note will be affected? buy the slide, put it on your horn and find out for yourself. or not. __________________ 1946 Martin Committee, Bach 5V

12-14-2003, 10:26 PM	#8 (permalink)
dcstep Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 679	Finger the E above high C with 1-2 and see if that doesn't make it easier. Many horns play that note really flat when played open (my old Yamaha Z, for instance) so that getting the pitch up with the alternative fingering will make it resonate more freely and make it easier to sound. Also, playing the D just above high C is easier when played open on horns that tend to play that note flat. If your other notes around the E are ok, then the slide will probably NOT help you with the E. Changing the slide is going to change the feel everywhere. Dave __________________ Schilke '60 B1 Selmer Paris -- '57 #20 K-Modified/ '03 Concept TT w/ GR66.8B2.8 '94 Lawler TL cornet w/ Sparx 2B Conn Vintage One flugel - GR66FD www.pitpops.com www.ucm-inc.com Rocky Mountain Trumpet Fest

12-14-2003, 12:38 PM	#2 (permalink)
No BS New Friend Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 22	They suck...want to buy mine?

12-14-2003, 08:26 PM	#5 (permalink)
musicalmason Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 192	I had the same question posted on trumpetplayeronline.com didnt get much a response over there, hope more people answer here. I see free blowing, less slotting, but heres my question, high e above the staff is basiclly the hardest note to play on my bach 180s ML 37, how will this slide affect that note?

12-14-2003, 09:58 PM	#7 (permalink)
Mikey Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,864	I can give you a general impression, but like James said, you may have to try it for yourself. What I find with my rounded tuning slide: It does open up the horn, makes the slots more "slippery" and lets you put more air through. Is that good? It all depends on what you want to feel. Personally I like the regular tuning slide for lead playing, as it slots better above high C. But, there are other things that contribute to slotting (gap, backbore, etc). Sorry to be so vague, but there is no cut and dried answer. Mike

12-15-2003, 09:34 AM	#9 (permalink)
musicalmason Pianissimo User Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 192	Thanks everybody for the responses, I tried the alternate fingering and it seems to be working.. ...I also apologize for my ignorance..

12-15-2003, 10:47 AM	#10 (permalink)
dcstep Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 679	It's nice to know when we occasionally get one right. Thanks for reporting your results. Dave __________________ Schilke '60 B1 Selmer Paris -- '57 #20 K-Modified/ '03 Concept TT w/ GR66.8B2.8 '94 Lawler TL cornet w/ Sparx 2B Conn Vintage One flugel - GR66FD www.pitpops.com www.ucm-inc.com Rocky Mountain Trumpet Fest

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