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Old 03-14-2007, 08:34 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Tech Advice - Leadpipe "coating"

Dumb question, but I'll ask it anyway...

I was driving along today and my mind wandered off into "trumpetland" and I was thinking about leadpipes, etc...particularly on vintage horns...and this idea crossed my mind. (My plumber was talking about a similar concept in my house tubes...so that's the genesis of this thought).

What would "happen" if one coated the inside of a clean leadpipe with something like a good lacquer, thin polymer, etc...to seal it. I was thinking...put a cork in the end, fill up with lacquer, (so ALL the wall gets coated)...then drain and let dry. (Note: NOT dry then drain...even I get that's an extremely bad concept).

I understand that would "close" the diameter of the tube by an infinitesimal amount, (the surface of the hardened coating), but what about "sealing" it from long term "stuff"...and various negative other issues...

Someone help me get this out of my mind...

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Old 03-14-2007, 09:19 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: Tech Advice - Leadpipe "coating"

The lacquer would succumb to the effects of the moisture, left over sugar, food, whatever and eventually slough off into your horn leaving spots where there's lacquer and spots where there's none.

Nasty business, that.

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Old 03-14-2007, 10:08 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: Tech Advice - Leadpipe "coating"

dizzyizzy,

Don't do it - when the coating breaks down it will leave nasty deposits downstream in your horn, namely, in your valves.

Just keep your leadpipe shiny clean and it will last for decades.

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Old 03-14-2007, 11:16 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: Tech Advice - Leadpipe "coating"

DizzyIzzy...

Ok, this has nothing to do with leadpipes, but I once lived in a house with cats named "Dizzy" and "Izzy." Izzy was mine (and still is) and Dizzy belonged to a roommate. Anyway, your screen name made me think of that!

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Re: Tech Advice - Leadpipe "coating"

It would change the inside dimensions of the leadpipe making it smaller. Laquer is not "infinitesmally thin". It is very thick compared to the tolerances that are usually considered relevant. That would make it a different leadpipe. If you are worried about redrot, get gold brass or sterling silver - they hold up much longer.
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Re: Tech Advice - Leadpipe "coating"

Lacquer? - BAD IDEA, but when I had my Yammy re-done, the tech pulled silver into the leaderpipe for protection. It is such a thin coating that I barely noticed and, no, he wasn't yanking my chain for more $ 'cause he didn't get any more. He said that for him it was a fairly common practice since silver will not flake and surcomb to the elements like lacquer, and it is also more resistant to the pH in saliva than brass. I've noticed that it is alot easier to keep the leaderpipe cleaned out now. Still looks new inside. Just my 2 cents.
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I could see that silver coating would work.
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Re: Tech Advice - Leadpipe "coating"

Izzy isn't dizzy, is he?
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Re: Tech Advice - Leadpipe "coating"

How about coating the inside of your leadpipe with aluminium? Sound travels more quickly, and the oxidation prevents further oxidation. Notice how I said "your leadpipe?" Keep us posted.
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Re: Tech Advice - Leadpipe "coating"

Thanks.

I KNEW there were reasons NOT to do this, but you know "how" your mind wanders on long drives...and it was a thought.

I'll check into the silver though in future rebuilds.

Since some of you were enjoying my screen name...it was HONORABLY earned and given to me. Last name begins with "Is..." How earned?

Former law enforcement type, in which everyone "earns" a nickname. Ancient years ago I responded to a postal burglary and the bad guys had cut thru the roof to get in. I was young, dumb and a newbie...so while my Training mentor did the crime scene below...I went out..figured out "how" they did it...and...shimmied UP a gutter pipe to access the roof to check out that part of the crime scene.

Now...back then...we all wore suits. So I had on a very good 3-piece suit, in which I went climbing up a nasty gutter to get to the hole that had been bashed through the roof/ceiling. When my training mentor came out...he was standing in the alley below...and I was standing on roof, explaining all the stuff I had found...and (without thinking), I enjoined him to "Come on up!". While I was watching...he slowly looked up and down at his own impeccible suit...raised his head to me...and just said..."Izzy...You're dizzy...ain't no way I'm climbing up a gutter..." etc. And the name stuck...30-some years later. The mentor and his partner were actually known in WNY law enforcement circles as Batman & Robin...and I ain't makin that up. So...unfortunately, it has nothing to do with honoring Mr. Gillespie, (don't I WISH I could play like that!)
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