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    is there such a thing as a C Sharp Benge trumpet? is it really a C ?

    i found one for sale supposed to be C sharp . i'm thinking it's not really. thx in advance for any info i can't find it online.
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    Re: is there such a thing as a C Sharp Benge trumpet? is it really a C ?

    With the tuning slide fully in sometimes may play sharp enough to be mistaken for C#, I know of Db Piccolos and there may have been a Db trumpet built as a special.

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    Re: is there such a thing as a C Sharp Benge trumpet? is it really a C ?

    Benge did not build "oddly pitched" instruments. There is no requirement for them in classical, jazz or band music. There is high pitch and low pitch however, high pitch being our modern A=440. Low pitch is around a quarter tone lower. A trumpet in C# therefore would be a D trumpet in low pitch. I have never seen anything like this.

    That all being said, their is Vienna pitch, which is a half step higher (A=465). Trumpets built for this pitch are a half step higher. They play rotary instruments however, not Benge.
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    Re: is there such a thing as a C Sharp Benge trumpet? is it really a C ?

    guys thx for the input. is a 60's benge c trumpet desirable?
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    Re: is there such a thing as a C Sharp Benge trumpet? is it really a C ?

    Hi Todd,

    Benge did make C trumpets, they are pretty rare.
    Chicago Benge Resource Site

    I find all Benge horns up to and including the LA Benges of the early 70's good horns.

    Benge Data Base

    There is a reason that you don't see too many come up For Sale. Rare, collectable and desirable.

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    Re: is there such a thing as a C Sharp Benge trumpet? is it really a C ?

    I once saw Armando Ghittala play the Tomasi Concerto on a Dflat trumpet that he had Yamaha make for him. He thought that it made the fingering easier. It's nice to be a rep for a trumpet company!

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    Re: is there such a thing as a C Sharp Benge trumpet? is it really a C ?

    Later UMI branded Benges (think 1990s) included the Leonore model in C. It is much more to be one of those than any other Benge in C.
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    Re: is there such a thing as a C Sharp Benge trumpet? is it really a C ?

    Quote Originally Posted by rowuk View Post
    There is high pitch and low pitch however, high pitch being our modern A=440. Low pitch is around a quarter tone lower.
    Had brain fart there, old man. Low pitch is A440. High pitch is A452-ish.

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    Re: is there such a thing as a C Sharp Benge trumpet? is it really a C ?

    Nope. Baroque low pitch is A= 417 ish. My Webb of London Natural Trumpet has crooks to put it in that tuning. have some Civil war cornets and keyed bugle that are A=458.

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    Re: is there such a thing as a C Sharp Benge trumpet? is it really a C ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Sterling View Post
    Nope. Baroque low pitch is A= 417 ish. My Webb of London Natural Trumpet has crooks to put it in that tuning. have some Civil war cornets and keyed bugle that are A=458.
    If that is in reply to me, baroque low pitch is something completely different. There were, of course, a variety of "high pitch" values but in discussion about our modern US trumpets, the numbers above are mostly correct.

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