jcstites

I never thought I would be thinking about trading my Bach C for a Yamaha. I ahve a Bach 229L with a Blackburn 19 pipe and rounded stuning slide that I have been pretty happy with for years (2 with the blackburn stuff.)

I have tried a few other horns in the last year or so that seemed to make things a little easier (yamaha chicago, larson, malone, and the new bach chicago) but never thought much about it.

Now, I have the opportunity to trade my horn + a little cash for a yamaha chicago. I played them both back to back for a few friends and they agree that it sounds easier on the yammie (just like it feels).

I like the response and ease of the yamaha, but on big things like mahler and strauss I prefer the fullness of mine. Wish I could combine a little of both, or afford to have both :)

Anyways, what do you guys think?

TheRiddler

I never thought I'd go Yamaha... ever... but - Last month I bought a Yamaha New York, and everyone in the orchestra has come up to me and told me how much more sparkle is in the room. It is a bigger horn than I was playing (ML C 239) but it feels extremely open, and i feel all i have to do is follow the music in my head/heart and it puts out exactly what I want.

My former teacher, John Rommel, has switched over to Yamaha NY C and Bb... I never thought I'd see the day where he put down his trusty 229 or his 37.

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Jimi Michiel

I've said this before on this forum: Yamaha is the only company out there besides Monette to really focus on the details and understand that the key to making a great instrument is in the tiniest details. The new Yamahas don't appear to be a whole lot different from previous Yamaha or Bachs, but you get the feeling that everything on the instrument, from the bracing to the weight of the valve caps and finger buttons, is there for a reason. I still don't agree with their sound concept, but the design approach is phenomenal.

-Jimi

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Reverend

I would have to throw in Felix Vayser of the New York Trumpet Company and his Stage 1 line into this mix. One has to only look at the posts about him and his company to know that he, too, is interested in the tiniest of details! He, too, will not be happy until you are - period!

Good luck with your search for a new C trumpet! The Stage 1 C's have been impressing folks as well!

Blessings,

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jcstites

I am 99% sure I am going to do the trade now. I have played on it even more, and like it more everytime.

The only hard thing will be letting go of my Bach. It has some sentimental value since I won it at NTC when I got 2nd back in high school.

I would love to play some of the nytc horns, but have never had a chance to, mayne if i have time when I am in nyc next week.

trumpetnick

How about trying a Bach 256? I have one even it is customised by Spada which is may be worthy to mention, but response is depending very much on leadpipe and tunning slide....Since Spada started to do TT leadpipes (it is basically two pipes going one into another) and reverse tuning slide, the result is that you get a very nice big sound, free blowing feel and easier response than previous C Strads....How about customising your own Strad...I am not aware of brass reparers shop near your area, but that it is another possibility

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miles71

As I go through the process of having a horn built I cannot complement Felix and his attention enough. I am having a Bb built and presently have the modular in my possession. These horns play great and I think his C horns should be in the mix if anyone is looking.

The Yamahas are some nice instrument too, I played them exclusivley before the move to a custom horn and I always reccommend the Yamahas to my students.

Good luck on the choice and no matter what, a new horn is a nice thing.

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tom turner

Hi,

Enjoy your new C and don't look back!

Selmer-Bach has enjoyed a very long run in which they took a wonderful custom trumpet business to an assembly line . . . and then spent the next 40 years doing absolutely nothing to move the state of the art forward.

Lots of serious students and lots of pros too snapped up those early Elkhart Bachs when new, for they always wanted one of those 5,600 elusive Bach trumpets Vincent made in his 37 years of perfecting his Strad.

Selmer has had 40 years to solve some of the Bach's little problems, and a couple of new generations of players and teachers have followed their own teachers to the Bach brand during this time.

The fact of the matter though, is this . . . there are several makers making GREAT C trumpets today . . . horns that don't bust your ba___s trying to make 'em work for you, and horns that don't have the intonation issues.

Yamaha has earned your business, and Bach is going to continue to see perfomers begin to move away in greater numbers once they feel it is "ok" to do so.

Go in peace, and enjoy your fine new instrument! It is a very, very good thing to have an instrument that plays like a dream and has no quirks. Frankly, that's what it SHOULD be all about as a goal of all makers . . . including the corporation that bought out Vincent Bach's tiny little custom shop nearly a half century ago!

T.
(A recovering "Bachoholic" for the past six years)

trpt2345

I played Bach for 25 years. But when I got my Yamaha it was like, "Where have you been all my life?" It is perfect for me.

Michael McLaughlin

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