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Old 01-03-2008, 05:31 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Old 01-03-2008, 05:38 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: "True Bach"

Is it just me or does it sound like they're trying to seel an old model under a new name? :)
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Old 01-03-2008, 06:32 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Re: "True Bach"

It is in fact the bean counters that have driven the "reorganization". It is a pity that unlike every other trumpet company out there, there is no mention of R+D and improvements - just revisiting what worked - 40 years ago!

The following quote surprised me too - why would Vincent Bach have doubted their capabilities back then? Is it a complement to say that "artisans" appear to be capable and interested?:
“My recent visit to your Bach plant surprised me. I did not expect it to be so well organized and expertly managed. You have an excellent staff and competent artisans who appear to be very capable and intensely interested in their work. They are very successfully interpreting my drawings and eager to continue the Bach Tradition."

Wishing you and your staff continued success, I am yours cordially,
Vincent Bach”

From the ad text, I suspect that a "True Bach" is an instrument that you will have to wait for.
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Today I believe "true" Bachs are being built by NYTC, B&S, Yamaha....
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It's o.k. I'm playing the real deal and I'm proud to say I play a Celebration!A true Bach and more!
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Re: "True Bach"

The whole thing is strange

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While trying to track consecutive serial numbers through production can be risky, we have identified this particular Bach Stradivarius model 180S37 as one of the first ‘True Bach” instruments.




So does this mean the Bachs that came before this "true bach" are fakes?

And here it sounds like they hired a bunch of new people and got some scabs to come "bach" The post about the problems with the chicago C trumpets leads me to believe nothing has changed for the better.

We have a full workforce dedicated to producing these instruments carefully and efficiently. We have also welcomed back a group of workers who have provided important continuity as well as minds open to improvements. By tapping our engineering and manufacturing capabilities at our other brass plants, we have enhanced our Bach instrument production capacity. We believe that, today, we are in a better position to meet Vincent Bach’s vision than in decades.
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Old 01-04-2008, 02:08 PM   #8 (permalink)
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What do you mean? I can see the comparisons to B&S and the NYTC copy of a Bach (probably done better) but does Flip Oakes make a copy?

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Does the current Bach company think that Vincent would say "Stop innovating! my designs from a bygone era are the epitome of trumpet design. All those other companies making trumpets different are fake!"
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My Sonare 900S is a very true bach ;)
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