What do you think about Getzen horns?

Double_G · 05-26-2005, 11:34 AM

I've only been on this forum for a couple of weeks, but more than once I have seen someone dogging Getzen horns. I play a Getzen intermediate model horn and I love it. It really is a good quality horn, but I don't see why everybody dislikes them so much. It doesn't make sense. I personally don't like my friends Old Recording and when I played Van's old Bach I didn't relaly like it either. I have yet to find a horn for me that is this easy to control.

I just want to some input from the oppositions side. Plus, my horn was a Sam Ash special (I know not the wisest thing I could have done buying a horn from Sam Ash). 770 SG Gold Series, Getzen. It's an intermediate, but I still really love playing it. So, just hit me up with your point of view and if you dealt with the horn before tell me some ways I could improve it. I'm not saying the horn is Stage 1 after all. But, still overall good weapon of choice.

trickg · 05-26-2005, 11:44 AM

Maybe you and I aren't reading the same threads because I haven't noticed that Getzens are regarded much differently than any other make of trumpet that isn't made by a custom builder. (Monett, Eclipse, Wild Thing, or even Schilkes to a certain degree, just to name a few.) In fact, the Getzen Severinsens seem to be regarded pretty well, and it is hard to take anything away from the Edwards line of horns which are also made by Getzen.

If you really want to see horns that wind up getting dinged in various threads by various posters, you should see some of the things that have been written about Bach Strads!

In my opinion, Getzens are decent trumpets although I think they went though a phase in the late 80s and early 90s where I didn't particularly care for some of what they were making. I was once issued a 4 valve Getzen flugelhorn that really wasn't that hot, (early 90s) but at one other point, I was playing on a 3 valved Eterna that was made in either the late 70s or early 80s that was a pretty nice playing flugel, and when someone came on asking about where to get a decent flugel on a budget, I suggested looking into a used Getzen among other things.

With horns, there are always going to be those who have contrary opinions about certain brands. The real question is do YOU like your Getzen? If you do and it works for you, I wouldn't worry about it too much.

murph66 · 05-26-2005, 12:37 PM

I agree. I've played Eterna Severinsens for several years , up until I got my Lawler Model T. I always thought of it as a great horn and really enjoyed playing it. I sold one when I retired from the Military, and when I started a comeback, I found another one on Ebay. All horns are going to have someone that doesn't like them, and many seem to like to vent their opinions on this or other forums. I cant recall my ever knocking a horn, and just ignore others opinion as almost any decent horn will work for someone.

trickg · 05-26-2005, 01:02 PM

To further expound upon something that Murph said, I have seen instances where one person will put a mouthpiece into a trumpet and absolutely love it, and then someone else will take the same trumpet, pop their mouthpiece into it, and absolutely hate it.

I think that there has to be a matchup of three factors:

1. Trumpet
2. Mouthpiece
3. Player

When those things all match each other, if the quality is decent, then the name stamped on the bell doesn't make that big of a difference.

Double_G · 05-26-2005, 02:08 PM

It's not just people on this forum. I've heard it from quite a few people that they think Getzen is the opitamy of suck. I appreciate the comments though thanks.

trickg · 05-26-2005, 02:27 PM

Well, they can think what they want, but I seem to recall hearing a story once about Doc Severinsen. As the story goes, he made a statement that he didn't play Getzen because they were paying him to play Getzen, but that if someone would make a trumpet that he liked better, then he would be more than happy to play it. This is Doc Severninsen we are talking about here, not some random dude that happens to play trumpet.

I've also heard that during the time Doc was playing on Getzens that he didn't get his horns from the custom shop either. He would just grab one that came off of the line and go.

Can anyone confirm, deny or shed any light on the stories that I have just referenced?

Tootsall · 05-26-2005, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double_G

It's not just people on this forum. I've heard it from quite a few people that they think Getzen is the opitamy of suck. I appreciate the comments though thanks.

Not to be argumentative but rather helpful: I'd make a suggestion that you go over to Trumpetherald.com and repeat that comment in the "Horns" forum. I think that Brett Getzen would be fairly quick (as would many others) to suggest otherwise! You would be wise to check out all of Brett's posts before doing any posting, however. You might find something that suggests there have been some serious changes in the Getzen company over the last few decades.

If you go to the Getzen website you'll also be able to read the history of the company which may answer some of your questions. Just a gentle suggestion so please take it for what it's worth.

dixiedaveb · 05-26-2005, 03:52 PM

I'm a full time pro since 1967 and have never seen a Getzen on a pro bandstand, pit or studio. Gotta be a reason. I've played a few over the years and thought that the Doc models were OK, nothing special. I think the company is geared up for student and step-up models along with their valved bugle division.
Just an opinion.

Double_G · 05-26-2005, 04:58 PM

Thanks for the comments! And the website Toots!

dcstep · 05-26-2005, 05:19 PM

Why don't you post some links to posts dissing Getzen? I've never heard of such a thing. They make excellent horns, IMHO. I've played most of them and I'm seriously craving a Genisis and maybe one of the cornets. I'm also looking foward to trying the Mike Vax model when it comes out.

I don't read everything that's posted here and on TH, but I read most of what's in the Horns forum and I just don't see much negative about Getzen.

Dave

05-26-2005, 11:34 AM	#1 (permalink)
Double_G Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Gordonsville, TN Posts: 195	What do you think about Getzen horns? I've only been on this forum for a couple of weeks, but more than once I have seen someone dogging Getzen horns. I play a Getzen intermediate model horn and I love it. It really is a good quality horn, but I don't see why everybody dislikes them so much. It doesn't make sense. I personally don't like my friends Old Recording and when I played Van's old Bach I didn't relaly like it either. I have yet to find a horn for me that is this easy to control. I just want to some input from the oppositions side. Plus, my horn was a Sam Ash special (I know not the wisest thing I could have done buying a horn from Sam Ash). 770 SG Gold Series, Getzen. It's an intermediate, but I still really love playing it. So, just hit me up with your point of view and if you dealt with the horn before tell me some ways I could improve it. I'm not saying the horn is Stage 1 after all. But, still overall good weapon of choice. __________________ King Silver Flair 2055S Getzen 770 SG Gold Series Bundy Series II cornet Music is a more potent instrument than any other for education. -Plato

05-26-2005, 11:44 AM	#2 (permalink)
trickg Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland Posts: 2,054	Maybe you and I aren't reading the same threads because I haven't noticed that Getzens are regarded much differently than any other make of trumpet that isn't made by a custom builder. (Monett, Eclipse, Wild Thing, or even Schilkes to a certain degree, just to name a few.) In fact, the Getzen Severinsens seem to be regarded pretty well, and it is hard to take anything away from the Edwards line of horns which are also made by Getzen. If you really want to see horns that wind up getting dinged in various threads by various posters, you should see some of the things that have been written about Bach Strads! In my opinion, Getzens are decent trumpets although I think they went though a phase in the late 80s and early 90s where I didn't particularly care for some of what they were making. I was once issued a 4 valve Getzen flugelhorn that really wasn't that hot, (early 90s) but at one other point, I was playing on a 3 valved Eterna that was made in either the late 70s or early 80s that was a pretty nice playing flugel, and when someone came on asking about where to get a decent flugel on a budget, I suggested looking into a used Getzen among other things. With horns, there are always going to be those who have contrary opinions about certain brands. The real question is do YOU like your Getzen? If you do and it works for you, I wouldn't worry about it too much. __________________ Patrick Gleason email me at: trickg1@hotmail.com "What we do in life echoes in eternity" "At my signal, unleash hell." - Maximus Decimus Meridius

05-26-2005, 01:02 PM	#4 (permalink)
trickg Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland Posts: 2,054	To further expound upon something that Murph said, I have seen instances where one person will put a mouthpiece into a trumpet and absolutely love it, and then someone else will take the same trumpet, pop their mouthpiece into it, and absolutely hate it. I think that there has to be a matchup of three factors: 1. Trumpet 2. Mouthpiece 3. Player When those things all match each other, if the quality is decent, then the name stamped on the bell doesn't make that big of a difference. __________________ Patrick Gleason email me at: trickg1@hotmail.com "What we do in life echoes in eternity" "At my signal, unleash hell." - Maximus Decimus Meridius

05-26-2005, 02:08 PM	#5 (permalink)
Double_G Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Gordonsville, TN Posts: 195	It's not just people on this forum. I've heard it from quite a few people that they think Getzen is the opitamy of suck. I appreciate the comments though thanks. __________________ King Silver Flair 2055S Getzen 770 SG Gold Series Bundy Series II cornet Music is a more potent instrument than any other for education. -Plato

05-26-2005, 02:27 PM	#6 (permalink)
trickg Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Glen Burnie, Maryland Posts: 2,054	Well, they can think what they want, but I seem to recall hearing a story once about Doc Severinsen. As the story goes, he made a statement that he didn't play Getzen because they were paying him to play Getzen, but that if someone would make a trumpet that he liked better, then he would be more than happy to play it. This is Doc Severninsen we are talking about here, not some random dude that happens to play trumpet. I've also heard that during the time Doc was playing on Getzens that he didn't get his horns from the custom shop either. He would just grab one that came off of the line and go. Can anyone confirm, deny or shed any light on the stories that I have just referenced? __________________ Patrick Gleason email me at: trickg1@hotmail.com "What we do in life echoes in eternity" "At my signal, unleash hell." - Maximus Decimus Meridius

05-26-2005, 12:37 PM	#3 (permalink)
murph66 New Friend Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 37	I agree. I've played Eterna Severinsens for several years , up until I got my Lawler Model T. I always thought of it as a great horn and really enjoyed playing it. I sold one when I retired from the Military, and when I started a comeback, I found another one on Ebay. All horns are going to have someone that doesn't like them, and many seem to like to vent their opinions on this or other forums. I cant recall my ever knocking a horn, and just ignore others opinion as almost any decent horn will work for someone.

05-26-2005, 03:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
dixiedaveb New Friend Join Date: May 2005 Location: southern california Posts: 16	getzen I'm a full time pro since 1967 and have never seen a Getzen on a pro bandstand, pit or studio. Gotta be a reason. I've played a few over the years and thought that the Doc models were OK, nothing special. I think the company is geared up for student and step-up models along with their valved bugle division. Just an opinion.

05-26-2005, 04:58 PM	#9 (permalink)
Double_G Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Gordonsville, TN Posts: 195	Thanks for the comments! And the website Toots! __________________ King Silver Flair 2055S Getzen 770 SG Gold Series Bundy Series II cornet Music is a more potent instrument than any other for education. -Plato

05-26-2005, 05:19 PM	#10 (permalink)
dcstep Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Denver Posts: 679	Why don't you post some links to posts dissing Getzen? I've never heard of such a thing. They make excellent horns, IMHO. I've played most of them and I'm seriously craving a Genisis and maybe one of the cornets. I'm also looking foward to trying the Mike Vax model when it comes out. I don't read everything that's posted here and on TH, but I read most of what's in the Horns forum and I just don't see much negative about Getzen. Dave __________________ Schilke '60 B1 Selmer Paris -- '57 #20 K-Modified/ '03 Concept TT w/ GR66.8B2.8 '94 Lawler TL cornet w/ Sparx 2B Conn Vintage One flugel - GR66FD www.pitpops.com www.ucm-inc.com Rocky Mountain Trumpet Fest

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

Unleash Your Anger
Copyright 2006 TrumpetMaster.com	All times are GMT -4. The time now is 05:42 AM. Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v2.2.0/Links 1.01 Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2 Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.0.0 RC8