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Old 02-24-2007, 12:41 AM   #1 (permalink)
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1923 Conn

So recently, I recieved a call from my great-uncle about his brother's old trumpet. He told he wanted it to go somewhere where it would be well looked after and taken care of. When it arrived in the mail, I took it out and immediately noticed the very small bell size. I proceeded to play starting from low C and played arpeggios up to E above high C and I was pleasantly surprised to hear the sound was so bright and clear for such an old horn (just a little stuffy). I just wanted to see what people thought about this beautiful antique. Thanks!
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Old 02-24-2007, 01:20 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Re: 1923 Conn

Conns usually have the model number stamped under the leadpipe near where the mouthpiece inserts, it should be a number followed by a B (ex, 2B, 22B). Old Conns are great.
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Re: 1923 Conn

In the early '20s Conn wasn't putting the model numbers on the receivers -- at least my '21 and '23 cornets don't have them. To ID your trumpet you may have to compare it to the pictures at:

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Old 02-24-2007, 06:18 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Re: 1923 Conn

I have a Conn cornet from 1907 and a Holton 1917. Ignoring some of the intonation problems, I prefer the sound of these old axes to any modern cornet I've played. When playing them I like to think I'm paying homage of sorts to the skilled people who made these horns, all of them probably gone by now. Corvallis, hmmm? I live up the road off of 99W. Any jazz jam sessions going on in your area?

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Re: 1923 Conn

I have an old Conn 80A from '21 that sounds like butter. A nice soft ballad and you can hear it cry.....
Oh, and I have a '25 Conn 22B that can really rip it up even with a chunk of trombone slide for a lead pipe (will have to get that fixed one of these days)
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Re: 1923 Conn

Yeah, I checked the number. It's a 25B. As to jazz jam sessions, there are none that I can think of...
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Re: 1923 Conn

High Pitch, A=456Hz or thereabout. Essentially, it sounds like a "B" trumpet (lower than a C trumpet, higher than a Bb). 0.438" bore (contrary to what my website says, haven't corrected that yet). Conn described it as

"It was built especially for "jazz" or ball-room orchestras, and has proven its value for this character of music most successfully. It possesses a stinging, yet musical quality of tone and unusual carrying power. From the time this trumpet was placed on the market, it met with success and swept all other "jazz" behind it. It is extremely easy playing and is particularly noted for this feature. We do not recommend the Opera Grand for symphonic or concert engagements."

If you tell me the serial I can tell you what year it was built.

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Re: 1923 Conn

This is my first post here so this should well be like an introductory,

I am 19 years old and have been playing for only 3 months by now so that's why I need your experiences to help me. My instructor is very experienced;he's been playing as solo trumpeteer in our Turkish Presidential Orchestra for 32 years and is the group chief! But we can only meet for 3 hours every Wednesday so I can't ask him questions all the time.He's really busy as you can expect.

I have a Conn trumpet given by my instructor but have no information about it. I guess it's 40 or 45 years old. Can you help me learn its exact origin? It's only saying B near the mouthpiece and have the number CO2866 on the second tube.

Thank you for your attention and helps, I'll need it.
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Re: 1923 Conn

Well, the serial number indicates it was made in 1963. The "B" says it is a trumpet (as opposed to a long model cornet). For what model you will need to give me some more details.

Nickel plated bell? Since you didn't mention any other engraving on the leadpipe I will assume the leadpipe is coprion and not brass. That makes it probably a 6B Victor.

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Re: 1923 Conn

Thanks for your clear explanation,

It's nickel plated but it isn't kept in good condition as I see some leakages around the main tube. I welded them and used Yamaha valve oil. It's now working very well.Even if I'm very new to that , I can notice that it's hard to play this in comparison to Yamaha and Fox Student Models and even harder than my instructor's Xeno ; once i can have the correct buzz, this becomes absolutely great!

Conn has done a great job , by the way it's saying

C.G.CONN-LTD
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ELKHART-U.S.A.

near the outlet ( I'm about to be an aerospace engineer and this is our terminology :) )
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