taraanna

The Alcazar says made by Couesnon 8x Ce Paris "made in France"?
Toneking has New York Band, New York Insrument Co. Both mouth pieces do not have any writing on them that i can find?
I know nothing about instruments they were found in the attic and they have been in mine for about 20 years. I have looked on line and donot find much about these?
Any info would be helpfull
Thanks
Linda

tom turner

Hi Linda,

Welcome to the vintage horns forum! There are several folks who post here you know quite a bit about vintage horns and they'll usually post if they have something to share!

I'll cover your two horns, one at a time.

1. Couesnon was probably the largest instrument maker in Europe at the turn of the 20th century (which was the peak of the brass band craze in the world).

This company make a ton of horns for export around the world, including many they made on contract for small music stores and such. These horns even had a name . . . "stencils" . . . for they were instruments from a maker but with a private label name affixed so the music store would have an instrument to push that they didn't have to discount to price shoppers.

Couesnon instruments were "ok" horns, unlike a lot of stencils out there that were made by lesser companies . . . and the vintage Couenon fluglehorns especially are prized today by PLAYERS.

Couesnon also was a pioneer in developing higher pitched trumpets, such as their pro-line C, D, Eb, F, G plus their A and Bb piccolo trumpets.

95 years ago they employed 1,000 workers within their eight factories. The final plant burned to the ground around 1978, taking with it all their plans, blueprints and ideas and destroying virtually the entire plant.

Your Couesnon-made instrument is probably a decent horn.


2. Your other horn is a mystery to me. I know noting of the New York instrument company. It is probably a stencil.

If you could post some JPEGs of these horns it would surely help someone identify the horns, or at least give you a decent approximate timeline when they were produced.

Thanks again for posting!

Tom Turner
Vintage Horns Forum Moderator

taraanna

Thanks
will post some piCS