$500 Vintage Cornet

Heavens2kadonka · 12-24-2004, 05:36 PM

No story time right now, but I must know: What is the best vintage cornet (reconditioned, mostly original parts) someone can get for around $500?

Van

Heavens2kadonka · 12-24-2004, 09:21 PM

While on the subject of spending money on a vintage horn: How much would it cost to get leaky valves on an older cornet fixed?

Van

bigaggietrumpet · 12-25-2004, 11:18 AM

Hmm...as far as vintage cornets go, I've always been partial to the Olds horns (big surprise, huh?). I know you can usually get Ambassadors pretty cheap, and I've seen a few Specials and Studios go for relatively cheap in decent condition (original). Now, if you're looking to drop the bigger bucks you could find yourself a Recording or Super Recording one as well.

Also, Reynolds' Medalist (I think, but you'd have to ask Mr. Turner on that one) is supposed to be quite good. A few of the ANCIENT H.N. White (early Kings) cornets are just GORGEOUS instruments, and usually go for around 500. Couldn't tell you how well they played, but I'm sure they probably do pretty well.

I highly doubt it's possible, but if you find a Boston 3Star cornet, those are sometimes considered the best cornets ever made.

As far as the leaky valves....

MUSICandCHARACTER · 12-25-2004, 11:47 AM

One thing about cornets, especially on eBay, they go for cheap. I am always surprised at how inexpensive cornets are -- you cannot use them in "band" anymore so they are really cheap. My guess is for $500 you could get a pretty decent one.

Jim

Tootsall · 12-25-2004, 12:10 PM

You could pick up a pretty darn nice Eterna 800 (circa 1968-78) for about $500. Those things play fantastic, have the great Getzen valves, and really match up well with Sparx m/p. You do have to watch for them though... they aren't terribly common (a testament to their popularity...owners don't usually get rid of them).

Happy Canuck · 12-25-2004, 01:45 PM

Just noticed a new posting on eBay of an Olds Opera cornet with a Buy-it-Now price of $475!!!!

Excellent horn at a fantastic price. If I didn't already have one I'd jump at it.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT

p.s. the turkey is starting to smell really nicely now, only 5 more hours for it to cook!

pps just as I posted this they started "The Trumpet Shall Sound" on the Messiah I'm watching, great timing!

heavyharmonies · 12-25-2004, 06:47 PM

Gone, baybee! As soon as I saw that auction while browsing Ebay, I pounced!

From what I've found online, the large bore Opera cornets are rather few and far between.

Merry Christmas to me! ;)

-Dan

MUSICandCHARACTER · 12-25-2004, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by heavyharmonies

Gone, baybee! As soon as I saw that auction while browsing Ebay, I pounced!

From what I've found online, the large bore Opera cornets are rather few and far between.

Merry Christmas to me! ;)

-Dan

I have to admit, I thought about it. Way to go Dan!

Jim

Heavens2kadonka · 12-25-2004, 10:08 PM

Heres what I have looked at so far:

A 1908 Besson Soliste (Robb Stewart's Website, 375, will require 150 at least to fix leaky valves, not counting chem clean, dent work).

A 1958-9 King Master (Ebay, Best bet in my book, Reserve not met).

A 1952 Olds Special (Ebay, Aren't the specials considered just a step above the Ambassadors? Reserve not met)

I haven't seen any Eterna cornets out there yet (I did find an Eb at Robb Stewart's site).

Quote:

Gone, baybee! As soon as I saw that auction while browsing Ebay, I pounced!

From what I've found online, the large bore Opera cornets are rather few and far between.

Merry Christmas to me! ;)

-Dan

Crap, timing has never been my thing, lol.

ANYWAY,

Are there any older Conn cornets anyone would recommend?

Van

Heavens2kadonka · 12-25-2004, 10:26 PM

While on this subject, I found a listing on a 1912 Conn Perfected Wonder, with a Buy It Now of 500. Looks pretty nice, and it is a large bore, though it says something about valve compression (Yuck, extra 150 dollars on price right there).

Oh yeah, the listing is:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...771526351&rd=1

Your takes?

Van

12-24-2004, 05:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,283	$500 Vintage Cornet No story time right now, but I must know: What is the best vintage cornet (reconditioned, mostly original parts) someone can get for around $500? Van __________________ Stage 1 California Light '94 Bach Strad 37 1900 Eb Cornet LOUD Steve Patrick 10 1/2 C LOUD LM93

12-24-2004, 09:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,283	While on the subject of spending money on a vintage horn: How much would it cost to get leaky valves on an older cornet fixed? Van __________________ Stage 1 California Light '94 Bach Strad 37 1900 Eb Cornet LOUD Steve Patrick 10 1/2 C LOUD LM93

12-25-2004, 11:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
bigaggietrumpet Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: College Station,TX Posts: 814	Hmm...as far as vintage cornets go, I've always been partial to the Olds horns (big surprise, huh?). I know you can usually get Ambassadors pretty cheap, and I've seen a few Specials and Studios go for relatively cheap in decent condition (original). Now, if you're looking to drop the bigger bucks you could find yourself a Recording or Super Recording one as well. Also, Reynolds' Medalist (I think, but you'd have to ask Mr. Turner on that one) is supposed to be quite good. A few of the ANCIENT H.N. White (early Kings) cornets are just GORGEOUS instruments, and usually go for around 500. Couldn't tell you how well they played, but I'm sure they probably do pretty well. I highly doubt it's possible, but if you find a Boston 3Star cornet, those are sometimes considered the best cornets ever made. As far as the leaky valves.... __________________ Michael Smith Hullabaloo: The official band of Texas A&M Basketball Kanstul 1537/ Schilke 14 LA Olds Studio

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MUSICandCHARACTER Forte User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Newburgh, Indiana Posts: 1,165	One thing about cornets, especially on eBay, they go for cheap. I am always surprised at how inexpensive cornets are -- you cannot use them in "band" anymore so they are really cheap. My guess is for $500 you could get a pretty decent one. Jim __________________ Dr. Jim Fox Licensed Mental Health Therapist Mouthpiece chart: www.ibowtie.com/tmptmpccharts.html

12-25-2004, 01:45 PM	#6 (permalink)
Happy Canuck Pianissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Toronto, ON Canada Posts: 174	Just noticed a new posting on eBay of an Olds Opera cornet with a Buy-it-Now price of $475!!!! Excellent horn at a fantastic price. If I didn't already have one I'd jump at it. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...e=STRK:MEWA:IT p.s. the turkey is starting to smell really nicely now, only 5 more hours for it to cook! pps just as I posted this they started "The Trumpet Shall Sound" on the Messiah I'm watching, great timing! __________________ Bill Olds Ambassador, Special, Super, Recording, Mendez Bb trumpets, Custom C trumpet/GR Butcher 65.6M Olds Opera & Ambassador A6 Shepherds Crook cornets/Sparx 4B Olds L-12 Flugelhorn/GR Butcher 65.6FL Schilke MII Trumpet/GR Butcher 65.6M If you have an Olds, go to http://www.theoldsregister.com/ and add data

12-25-2004, 12:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
Tootsall Fortissimo User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Yee HAW! Posts: 4,641	You could pick up a pretty darn nice Eterna 800 (circa 1968-78) for about $500. Those things play fantastic, have the great Getzen valves, and really match up well with Sparx m/p. You do have to watch for them though... they aren't terribly common (a testament to their popularity...owners don't usually get rid of them).

12-25-2004, 06:47 PM	#7 (permalink)
heavyharmonies New Friend Join Date: Apr 2004 Posts: 7	Gone, baybee! As soon as I saw that auction while browsing Ebay, I pounced! From what I've found online, the large bore Opera cornets are rather few and far between. Merry Christmas to me! ;) -Dan

12-25-2004, 10:26 PM	#10 (permalink)
Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,283	While on this subject, I found a listing on a 1912 Conn Perfected Wonder, with a Buy It Now of 500. Looks pretty nice, and it is a large bore, though it says something about valve compression (Yuck, extra 150 dollars on price right there). Oh yeah, the listing is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...771526351&rd=1 Your takes? Van __________________ Stage 1 California Light '94 Bach Strad 37 1900 Eb Cornet LOUD Steve Patrick 10 1/2 C LOUD LM93

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