Adding a 1st valve slide ring onto an olds? - Page 2

A.N.A. Mendez · 10-12-2009, 05:25 PM

You stole it, I'm betting you will fall in love with this horn.....

wfranklin · 10-13-2009, 10:17 AM

As I understand it, Olds had tone rings left over from the LA days when they made the move to Fullerton, and continued using the tone rings until they ran out. The Fullerton horn with an LA tone ring really isn't a hybrid, unless you think the text change from "Los Angeles" to "Fullerton" makes a difference in the horn's tone (I don't).

Sam24 · 10-13-2009, 03:38 PM

ah ok that clarifies things. thanks for the info.

good ole ebay...i just hate waiting for things to ship

A.N.A. Mendez · 10-13-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by wfranklin

As I understand it, Olds had tone rings left over from the LA days when they made the move to Fullerton, and continued using the tone rings until they ran out. The Fullerton horn with an LA tone ring really isn't a hybrid, unless you think the text change from "Los Angeles" to "Fullerton" makes a difference in the horn's tone (I don't).

further clarification. I believe it was the bells with tone rings already on that were taken over to the new factory. The tone rings are put on during bell construction....

Sam24 · 10-13-2009, 04:16 PM

k...the bell with the tone ring already on it makes more sense. I dont see why they'd put Los Angeles on a horn that really didn't have anything to do with the LA factory.

ComeBackKid · 10-14-2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Sam24

1958 Olds SUPER Trumpet Gold Silver Los Angeles - eBay (item 350259999346 end time Oct-11-09 11:33:01 PDT)

I won this one : )...Theres some unsightly spots on the lacquer but the rest of it looks great. I hope this was a good purchase!!

I'm sure you will love it. The marks on the ring make no difference to the playing. I have an LA model and a Fullerton model. They both play great. I can't imagine why you would need a 1st valve ring. Mine are very easy to lip into tune when needed.

jonterman · 10-14-2009, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam24

1958 Olds SUPER Trumpet Gold Silver Los Angeles - eBay (item 350259999346 end time Oct-11-09 11:33:01 PDT)

I won this one : )

What do you guys think about the fullerton/LA bell hybrids? Has anyone ever played one?

Theres some unsightly spots on the lacquer but the rest of it looks great. I hope this was a good purchase!!

I was looking at that one...nice pick up!

Sam24 · 10-14-2009, 10:35 PM

yeah thats what I was afraid of so I jumped on it : P

i figured someone on TM would probably be lookin at it figuring how much support and praise there is for the Olds trumpets around here.

jonterman · 10-16-2009, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam24

yeah thats what I was afraid of so I jumped on it : P

i figured someone on TM would probably be lookin at it figuring how much support and praise there is for the Olds trumpets around here.

I came pretty close to jumping on that one, but I had my eye on a restored Old's Super Cornet...good work!

Trumpet1Ohio · 11-15-2009, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Trumpet1Ohio

I have a Super and a Recording, both from the 50's. I decided to put a 1st valve slide kicker on the Super, but not the Recording. I have a problem with the high A on my Super but not so much on the Recording. As ANA said, the 1st valve slide kicker was an option on the Supers so I dont think its a problem to add. I had a late 60's Super with the adjustable kicker on it. I ordered the parts for the 1st valve slide and a 3rd valve slide stop through Buckeye Brass in my area. He has had a problem getting the parts quickly, but assures me they'll be here soon. When it happens, I'll post again and let you know cost and how it went.

I got the above work done on my horn. Turned out great. The 3rd valve slide stop rod is not OEM and the 1st valve slide slide saddle isnt original but I like the look better. I also stripped the lacquer off and had it buffed by Buckeye Brass. My cost was about $200 for the work and WELL worth it. I'd love to post a picture but cant seem to get it to work.

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wfranklin New Friend Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 24	Re: Adding a 1st valve slide ring onto an olds? As I understand it, Olds had tone rings left over from the LA days when they made the move to Fullerton, and continued using the tone rings until they ran out. The Fullerton horn with an LA tone ring really isn't a hybrid, unless you think the text change from "Los Angeles" to "Fullerton" makes a difference in the horn's tone (I don't). __________________ ---------------- 1935 Olds Super cornet 1940 King Silvertone cornet (2)

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Sam24 New Friend Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 18	Re: Adding a 1st valve slide ring onto an olds? ah ok that clarifies things. thanks for the info. good ole ebay...i just hate waiting for things to ship

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Sam24 New Friend Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 18	Re: Adding a 1st valve slide ring onto an olds? k...the bell with the tone ring already on it makes more sense. I dont see why they'd put Los Angeles on a horn that really didn't have anything to do with the LA factory.

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Sam24 New Friend Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 18	Re: Adding a 1st valve slide ring onto an olds? yeah thats what I was afraid of so I jumped on it : P i figured someone on TM would probably be lookin at it figuring how much support and praise there is for the Olds trumpets around here.

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