Bundy serial numbers?

Alan Dismukes · 12-22-2007, 10:59 PM

A friend gave me his old Bundy that he had played in school band, probably in the early to mid-70s. I remember back in high school me and my Bach-owning buddies looked down on the kids playing 3rd trumpet on Bundys, but I have developed new respect 'cause this horn plays surprisingly well. I know it is student horn and was designed by Vincent Bach, but I am confused about how Bundy trumpets fit into trumpet manufacturing history. Was Bundy at one time an independent trumpet maker and bought out by Selmer like Bach? Also, I would like to date this horn, but the only list of serial numbers I can find for Bundy are combined with Buescher and seems useless for dating this horn. The serial number is 123608. Engraving on the bell reads:

DESIGNED BY VINCENT BACH
B U N D Y
H. & A. SELMER, INC.

Can anybody steer me to info on the Bundy brand?

MFfan · 12-23-2007, 04:11 PM

The Bundy serial number question is a difficult one, as I would agree the Kirmser ones are relevant to too many. Go to ebay guides-History of the Selmer company, for a good history on the various players. George Bundy was an employee of the American operation of the Selmer (Paris)co and operated the business after the French rep went back to France. He then carried other brands for sale. Bundy bought out the operation in 28 or so and started building Bundy horns in 1941 for the student market. You might email Conn-Selmer to see if they have an authoritative serial list.

Toobz · 12-23-2007, 04:14 PM

Here's an interesting link with Selmer and George M. Bundy timelines.

The Selmer Corporation

Using Selmer France serial number lists won't work, and the few attempts I've seen for a Bundy list are all over the place.

Alan Dismukes · 12-23-2007, 05:00 PM

Thanks, Toobz. Now I understand the Buescher/Bundy link. And since Bach began working on designs for the Bundy horns in 1961 at least I know my Bundy is no older than that. Based on my friend's age and the probable age that he started taking band, and presuming that his parents bought the horn new, I suspect an early '70s date of manufacture is pretty close.

rushinglad · 10-23-2009, 08:39 PM

i also need help finding the age of my bundy trumpet it has a serial number of 117889 could some one give me the selmer corpration email number

MFfan · 10-23-2009, 09:25 PM

Here is the conn-selmer site. Good luck!
Conn-Selmer, Inc. Musical Instruments

Trumpetman67 · 10-23-2009, 10:25 PM

Cool! While you guys look for the age of your bundy's... mine is sitting in the tub being cleaned for the big day tomorrow.....
PAINTING!!!

MFfan · 10-24-2009, 12:10 AM

I heard it is going to be pink with white polka dots.

Trumpetman67 · 10-24-2009, 01:38 AM

I can't believe I'm going to do this.............................................. ........
look in my album...

12-22-2007, 10:59 PM	#1
Alan Dismukes Piano User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 272	Bundy serial numbers? A friend gave me his old Bundy that he had played in school band, probably in the early to mid-70s. I remember back in high school me and my Bach-owning buddies looked down on the kids playing 3rd trumpet on Bundys, but I have developed new respect 'cause this horn plays surprisingly well. I know it is student horn and was designed by Vincent Bach, but I am confused about how Bundy trumpets fit into trumpet manufacturing history. Was Bundy at one time an independent trumpet maker and bought out by Selmer like Bach? Also, I would like to date this horn, but the only list of serial numbers I can find for Bundy are combined with Buescher and seems useless for dating this horn. The serial number is 123608. Engraving on the bell reads: DESIGNED BY VINCENT BACH B U N D Y H. & A. SELMER, INC. Can anybody steer me to info on the Bundy brand?

12-23-2007, 04:11 PM	#2
MFfan Forte User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 1,690	Re: Bundy serial numbers? The Bundy serial number question is a difficult one, as I would agree the Kirmser ones are relevant to too many. Go to ebay guides-History of the Selmer company, for a good history on the various players. George Bundy was an employee of the American operation of the Selmer (Paris)co and operated the business after the French rep went back to France. He then carried other brands for sale. Bundy bought out the operation in 28 or so and started building Bundy horns in 1941 for the student market. You might email Conn-Selmer to see if they have an authoritative serial list.

12-23-2007, 04:14 PM	#3
Toobz Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 614	Re: Bundy serial numbers? Here's an interesting link with Selmer and George M. Bundy timelines. The Selmer Corporation Using Selmer France serial number lists won't work, and the few attempts I've seen for a Bundy list are all over the place. Last edited by Toobz; 12-23-2007 at 04:19 PM.

12-23-2007, 05:00 PM	#4
Alan Dismukes Piano User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 272	Re: Bundy serial numbers? Thanks, Toobz. Now I understand the Buescher/Bundy link. And since Bach began working on designs for the Bundy horns in 1961 at least I know my Bundy is no older than that. Based on my friend's age and the probable age that he started taking band, and presuming that his parents bought the horn new, I suspect an early '70s date of manufacture is pretty close.

10-23-2009, 08:39 PM	#5
rushinglad New Friend Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1	Re: Bundy serial numbers? i also need help finding the age of my bundy trumpet it has a serial number of 117889 could some one give me the selmer corpration email number

10-23-2009, 09:25 PM	#6
MFfan Forte User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 1,690	Re: Bundy serial numbers? Here is the conn-selmer site. Good luck! Conn-Selmer, Inc. Musical Instruments __________________ Dave Rafferty Lemar Trumpet (peashooter-Conn?) Lyrical Trumpet (Tokan) Besson 609 Trumpet 1955-60 Besson 8-10 Trumpet 1948 Besson cornet 1946 King Master Cornet www.kalamazooconcertband.org

10-23-2009, 10:25 PM	#7
Trumpetman67 Piano User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Posts: 266	Re: Bundy serial numbers? Cool! While you guys look for the age of your bundy's... mine is sitting in the tub being cleaned for the big day tomorrow..... PAINTING!!! __________________ Vulgano Brother: "I consider the normal wearing away of silver as badges of honor..." - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unknown student trumpet "china horn" Besson 609 student/ Intermediate trumpet Bundy student/Intermediate trumpet

10-24-2009, 12:10 AM	#8
MFfan Forte User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Posts: 1,690	Re: Bundy serial numbers? I heard it is going to be pink with white polka dots. __________________ Dave Rafferty Lemar Trumpet (peashooter-Conn?) Lyrical Trumpet (Tokan) Besson 609 Trumpet 1955-60 Besson 8-10 Trumpet 1948 Besson cornet 1946 King Master Cornet www.kalamazooconcertband.org

10-24-2009, 01:38 AM	#9
Trumpetman67 Piano User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: USA Posts: 266	Re: Bundy serial numbers? I can't believe I'm going to do this.............................................. ........ look in my album... __________________ Vulgano Brother: "I consider the normal wearing away of silver as badges of honor..." - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Unknown student trumpet "china horn" Besson 609 student/ Intermediate trumpet Bundy student/Intermediate trumpet

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