Calling all vintage Reynolds owners... request for info

contempora · 07-28-2006, 04:38 PM

Fellow Reynolds fans,

I am in the throes of a general revision of the Contempora Corner site (again!), with a special focus on the older F.A. Reynolds horns from the 1930s and 1940s. Really trying to nail down the different model variants (trumpet and cornet) and get those identified. So far, I've ID'd five brass-bell and two sterling-bell trumpet models, and three brass-bell and two sterling-bell cornet models. Just need to figure out where they all fit into the order of things...

So... if you have a F.A. Reynolds trumpet or cornet with a serial number under 30000 (approximately when the Roth-Reynolds name started being used, ~1952), I would love to hear from you regarding your horn specs in the following areas:

[1] Bell size?
[2] Bore size? (if you can measure it)
[3] What materials (brass, nickel silver, sterling silver) are used and where?
[4] Engraving style?
[5] Other cool features, e.g. Bb/A tuning rings, etc.
[6] Serial number (or at least as much as you're comfortable sharing)?

Feel free to post here, PM me or email me directly at elshaddai@contemporacorner.com. I *really* appreciate your help in making the site even more accurate for the truly vintage horns.

Best regards,

ElShaddai Edwards
Contempora Corner
http://www.contemporacorner.com

oldlou · 07-28-2006, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by contempora

Fellow Reynolds fans,

I am in the throes of a general revision of the Contempora Corner site (again!), with a special focus on the older F.A. Reynolds horns from the 1930s and 1940s. Really trying to nail down the different model variants (trumpet and cornet) and get those identified. So far, I've ID'd five brass-bell and two sterling-bell trumpet models, and three brass-bell and two sterling-bell cornet models. Just need to figure out where they all fit into the order of things...

So... if you have a F.A. Reynolds trumpet or cornet with a serial number under 30000 (approximately when the Roth-Reynolds name started being used, ~1952), I would love to hear from you regarding your horn specs in the following areas:

[1] Bell size?
4 1/2"
[2] Bore size? (if you can measure it)
.450"
[3] What materials (brass, nickel silver, sterling silver) are used and where?
Nickel silver upper valve casings, slide bows, satin silver plate (?) on all else, except the bell logo, which is engraved "made by F.A.Reynolds, Cleveland,O.
[4] Engraving style?
Minimal floral incorporated into bell logo.
[5] Other cool features, e.g. Bb/A tuning rings, etc.
Underslung main tuning slide without locking ring.
[6] Serial number (or at least as much as you're comfortable sharing)?
9727

Feel free to post here, PM me or email me directly at elshaddai@contemporacorner.com. I *really* appreciate your help in making the site even more accurate for the truly vintage horns.

Best regards,

ElShaddai Edwards
Contempora Corner
http://www.contemporacorner.com

oldlou · 07-28-2006, 08:49 PM

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So... if you have a F.A. Reynolds trumpet or cornet with a serial number under 30000 (approximately when the Roth-Reynolds name started being used, ~1952), I would love to hear from you regarding your horn specs in the following areas:
Roth cornet
[1] Bell size?
4 3/4"
[2] Bore size? (if you can measure it)
.455"
[3] What materials (brass, nickel silver, sterling silver) are used and where?
All lacquered brass.
[4] Engraving style?
Engraved longitudinally "ROTH"
[5] Other cool features, e.g. Bb/A tuning rings, etc.
None
[6] Serial number (or at least as much as you're comfortable sharing)?
58315

Best regards,

ElShaddai Edwards
Contempora Corner
http://www.contemporacorner.com[/quote]

tom turner · 07-28-2006, 08:55 PM

Hi El Shaddai,

I haven't forgotten my promise to send you some JPEGs of my '61 Argenta cornet. It looks like I'll finally be able to set up my photo light umbrellas this weekend and be able to give you some decent photos. I didn't just want to do a casual bunch of shots, since they might not be the kind of quality that would "wear well" over a period of time . . . in case you can use them on your site as hoped.

I've been quite, quite busy lately . . . but I didn't forget buddy!

Warmest regards,

Tom

contempora · 07-29-2006, 06:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldlou

Roth cornet
[1] Bell size?
4 3/4"
[2] Bore size? (if you can measure it)
.455"
[3] What materials (brass, nickel silver, sterling silver) are used and where?
All lacquered brass.
[4] Engraving style?
Engraved longitudinally "ROTH"
[5] Other cool features, e.g. Bb/A tuning rings, etc.
None
[6] Serial number (or at least as much as you're comfortable sharing)?
58315

That one's marked "F.A. Reynolds" underneath the Roth, right? I remember that one on eBay. As best as I can determine, that particular horn was made sometime between 1946 and ~1952. The Roth line was originally made by Ohio Band Instrument Co. (a division of F.A. Reynolds), along with the Regent model line.

When Scherl & Roth bought F.A. Reynolds Co. in 1946, the Ohio Band name goes away (but not sure exactly when), as does Regent. Roth instruments seem to then be marked F.A. Reynolds up until the Roth-Reynolds name was introduced in ~1952. I have relatively few data points and fortunately one photo on the site.

contempora · 07-29-2006, 06:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom turner

Hi El Shaddai,

I haven't forgotten my promise to send you some JPEGs of my '61 Argenta cornet. It looks like I'll finally be able to set up my photo light umbrellas this weekend and be able to give you some decent photos. I didn't just want to do a casual bunch of shots, since they might not be the kind of quality that would "wear well" over a period of time . . . in case you can use them on your site as hoped.

I've been quite, quite busy lately . . . but I didn't forget buddy!

Warmest regards,

Tom

No worries, Tom. I've been so busy with the new baby and looking for work (finally started a new job this past week!) that I haven't had a lot of time to make changes to the site. I'm looking forward to seeing the photos though!

oldlou · 07-29-2006, 09:57 AM

You are right about the engraving on the Roth cornet. Nice little horn. What I am really interested in finding out is the model designation of my dad's old Reynolds cornet that I gave you the specs on just prior to the Roth. Any help on this one will be much appreciated.

OLDLOU>>

contempora · 07-29-2006, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldlou

You are right about the engraving on the Roth cornet. Nice little horn. What I am really interested in finding out is the model designation of my dad's old Reynolds cornet that I gave you the specs on just prior to the Roth. Any help on this one will be much appreciated.

OLDLOU>>

I'm working on it... have a lead on a 1947 Reynolds catalog, but so far haven't been able to get a copy of it. Would be a great resource for the site...

contempora · 10-12-2006, 12:09 PM

As way of an update on this project, the Contempora Corner site update went live yesterday with new pages about the original (1936-1946) F.A. Reynolds trumpets and cornets:

Still no actual model designations, but I believe I have the different variant timeframes sorted out. I'm still working on some of the special finish options, e.g. silverplate, goldplate, etc., that have been reported and will welcome any model information, including bell sizes, bore sizes, photos, etc. that anyone wants to share.

westhorn · 12-30-2007, 09:15 AM

Hi ElShaddai,

sorry for the delay and hope its not too late. That's a fine site you have.

Here are the details for my Reynolds cornet, recently acquired on ebay and a joy! It's raw brass as is, and the seller told me that the valve caps (lower ones) are not original so if anyone knows of any, I'd be glad to hear from them.

[1]Bell size - 4.75"

[2] Bore size - medium to medium large I guess, but quite a bit less than my Yamaha YTR 6345 (.643" ?? 11.73 mm) and a tad less than my Studio 59xxx

[3] What materials (brass, nickel silver, sterling silver) are used and where?

All brass except:

first section of lead pipe (but not mpc receiver) as far as level with valve block, not next section or tuning slide.
Nickel again from down stream, lhs of tuning slide to bend up to 3rd valve. This bend is acually brass on valve side and nickel on the other outer side with a nicely shaped nickel stay running forwards.

Water keys and screw through them are plated, but not the brackets.

Upper valve block, stems, caps and mother of pearl buttons. Of these only valve block appears to be nickel, the others being plated.
Pinky hook

There is no 3rd valve hook at present but there is a brass bracket and knob

[4] Engraving style - The vertical engraving style

[5]
[6] Serial number - 12414

Reynolds2-1.jpg

Reynolds3-1.jpg

Reynolds1-1.jpg

Reynolds6.jpg

Reynolds7.jpg

Cheers
Chris

07-28-2006, 04:38 PM	#1 (permalink)
contempora New Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 45	Calling all vintage Reynolds owners... request for info Fellow Reynolds fans, I am in the throes of a general revision of the Contempora Corner site (again!), with a special focus on the older F.A. Reynolds horns from the 1930s and 1940s. Really trying to nail down the different model variants (trumpet and cornet) and get those identified. So far, I've ID'd five brass-bell and two sterling-bell trumpet models, and three brass-bell and two sterling-bell cornet models. Just need to figure out where they all fit into the order of things... So... if you have a F.A. Reynolds trumpet or cornet with a serial number under 30000 (approximately when the Roth-Reynolds name started being used, ~1952), I would love to hear from you regarding your horn specs in the following areas: [1] Bell size? [2] Bore size? (if you can measure it) [3] What materials (brass, nickel silver, sterling silver) are used and where? [4] Engraving style? [5] Other cool features, e.g. Bb/A tuning rings, etc. [6] Serial number (or at least as much as you're comfortable sharing)? Feel free to post here, PM me or email me directly at elshaddai@contemporacorner.com. I really appreciate your help in making the site even more accurate for the truly vintage horns. Best regards, ElShaddai Edwards Contempora Corner http://www.contemporacorner.com

07-28-2006, 08:49 PM	#3 (permalink)
oldlou Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 507	Re: Calling all vintage Reynolds owners... request for info [ So... if you have a F.A. Reynolds trumpet or cornet with a serial number under 30000 (approximately when the Roth-Reynolds name started being used, ~1952), I would love to hear from you regarding your horn specs in the following areas: Roth cornet [1] Bell size? 4 3/4" [2] Bore size? (if you can measure it) .455" [3] What materials (brass, nickel silver, sterling silver) are used and where? All lacquered brass. [4] Engraving style? Engraved longitudinally "ROTH" [5] Other cool features, e.g. Bb/A tuning rings, etc. None [6] Serial number (or at least as much as you're comfortable sharing)? 58315 Best regards, ElShaddai Edwards Contempora Corner http://www.contemporacorner.com[/quote]
	__________________ Couturier trumpet York Master Model trumpet York Elite trumpet York Airflow cornet King super 20 Master Model cornet King Liberty trumpet Reynolds Professional cornet Bohm & Meinl professional trumpet Besson 10-10 trumpet with Holton M.F. bell Olds Special cornet Los Angeles B&H Sovereign cornet G.R.Band Instr. cornet Getzen Super Deluxe trumpet and cornet Getzen Deluxe trumpet and cornet Many others no room to list

07-29-2006, 09:57 AM	#7 (permalink)
oldlou Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Grand Rapids, Mi. Posts: 507	Roth cornet You are right about the engraving on the Roth cornet. Nice little horn. What I am really interested in finding out is the model designation of my dad's old Reynolds cornet that I gave you the specs on just prior to the Roth. Any help on this one will be much appreciated. OLDLOU>>
	__________________ Couturier trumpet York Master Model trumpet York Elite trumpet York Airflow cornet King super 20 Master Model cornet King Liberty trumpet Reynolds Professional cornet Bohm & Meinl professional trumpet Besson 10-10 trumpet with Holton M.F. bell Olds Special cornet Los Angeles B&H Sovereign cornet G.R.Band Instr. cornet Getzen Super Deluxe trumpet and cornet Getzen Deluxe trumpet and cornet Many others no room to list

10-12-2006, 12:09 PM	#9 (permalink)
contempora New Friend Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Burnsville, MN Posts: 45	As way of an update on this project, the Contempora Corner site update went live yesterday with new pages about the original (1936-1946) F.A. Reynolds trumpets and cornets: F.A. Reynolds Trumpets F.A. Reynolds Cornets Still no actual model designations, but I believe I have the different variant timeframes sorted out. I'm still working on some of the special finish options, e.g. silverplate, goldplate, etc., that have been reported and will welcome any model information, including bell sizes, bore sizes, photos, etc. that anyone wants to share.
	__________________ ElShaddai Edwards Contempora Corner elshaddai@contemporacorner.com

12-30-2007, 09:15 AM	#10 (permalink)
westhorn New Friend Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Falmouth, Cornwall, UK Brand: olds Posts: 30	Re: Calling all vintage Reynolds owners... request for info Hi ElShaddai, sorry for the delay and hope its not too late. That's a fine site you have. Here are the details for my Reynolds cornet, recently acquired on ebay and a joy! It's raw brass as is, and the seller told me that the valve caps (lower ones) are not original so if anyone knows of any, I'd be glad to hear from them. [1]Bell size - 4.75" [2] Bore size - medium to medium large I guess, but quite a bit less than my Yamaha YTR 6345 (.643" ?? 11.73 mm) and a tad less than my Studio 59xxx [3] What materials (brass, nickel silver, sterling silver) are used and where? All brass except: first section of lead pipe (but not mpc receiver) as far as level with valve block, not next section or tuning slide. Nickel again from down stream, lhs of tuning slide to bend up to 3rd valve. This bend is acually brass on valve side and nickel on the other outer side with a nicely shaped nickel stay running forwards. Water keys and screw through them are plated, but not the brackets. Upper valve block, stems, caps and mother of pearl buttons. Of these only valve block appears to be nickel, the others being plated. Pinky hook There is no 3rd valve hook at present but there is a brass bracket and knob [4] Engraving style - The vertical engraving style [5] [6] Serial number - 12414 Reynolds2-1.jpg Reynolds3-1.jpg Reynolds1-1.jpg Reynolds6.jpg Reynolds7.jpg Cheers Chris
	__________________ 43 Reynolds Cornet 71 Olds Recording 51 Olds Studio Yamaha 6345 Olds Ambassador Corton flugelhorn and trumpet

07-28-2006, 08:55 PM	#4 (permalink)
tom turner Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Brand: F. Oakes tpts/flug/cornet Posts: 788	Hi El Shaddai, I haven't forgotten my promise to send you some JPEGs of my '61 Argenta cornet. It looks like I'll finally be able to set up my photo light umbrellas this weekend and be able to give you some decent photos. I didn't just want to do a casual bunch of shots, since they might not be the kind of quality that would "wear well" over a period of time . . . in case you can use them on your site as hoped. I've been quite, quite busy lately . . . but I didn't forget buddy! Warmest regards, Tom

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