Can anyone ID my Horn?

medwards63 · 03-19-2008, 09:01 AM

After lurking about for several months I have finally registered and hope to enter into some great discussions.

But first, I need some help identifying a horn I've just acquired. It is stamped 'Calvert Artist' on the bell and 'belgium' on the MP receiver. The only other markings is a s/n of 475 on the 1st valve casing.

It has an art deco style with raw brass and nickel plate and has hex caps and keys. The valves are bottom sprung.

Any ideas/info would be most appreciated.

Toobz · 03-19-2008, 05:12 PM

Try Horn-u-copia, this site specializes in identifying unusual horns and makers.

Horn-u-copia public forum discussing antique, obscure and out-of-production Brass Instruments

Also, if you can, post some pics. Your horn may be a stencil of some other well known brand. There are many folks here that can identify a horn with just a photo or two. Good luck !

medwards63 · 03-20-2008, 08:51 AM

Thanks! I'll try to get some pics up this afternoon.

MFfan · 03-20-2008, 09:39 AM

I looked on Horn-u-copia and couldn't find any reference to a Calvert on their main, secondary, or trade name database. There are so many stencils it is very hard to id many. I have one of those mysteries.

Cornet1 · 03-20-2008, 11:28 AM

I suspect that this has something o do with the late Eddie Calvert who was a world famous trumpet star in the 1940's and 50's,...in fact, probably the last solo trumpet player to record multiple hit records in the 'pop' charts. He was born in Preston, Lancashire of a brass band family and by the mid 50's was a household name. Like a lot of the 50's stars he was overwhelmed by the 60's pop scene and retired to South Africa.

He was a great self promoter so it would be highly likely that he attempted to sell his name on trumpets.

medwards63 · 03-20-2008, 02:53 PM

Thanks for the replies - what a great forum. Here are some pics:

Snow08 023a.jpg

Snow08 018a.jpg

Dale Proctor · 03-20-2008, 03:23 PM

Some characteristics have the look of an old Getzen, while others do not.......just thinking out loud.....

Toobz · 03-20-2008, 05:43 PM

It reminded me of a Conn, so I went looking. The Pan American 58B
has a lot in common with your horn. Take a look.

The Conn Loyalist

Conn sold the Pan Am line to many, many outlets. Yours could be a Pan Am stencil with some after market adds. Does the serial number begin with a "P" ?

That pinky ring "C" also reminds me of the type of stylized bracing used on Conn saxes from the mid 60's on.

Then again, it might just be some companies copy.

cchsmarcher · 03-20-2008, 08:53 PM

So i have a trumpet, and there is no brand name on it, but there is a serial number, or some kind of number printed on a valve case, (0154069) and i have looked every where and can't find any company with that serial number, or even close to it,. help?

my e-mail is cchsmarcher@yahoo.com
i also have aol instant messenger=chriswilliamsduh
so get back to me in anyway if u have any advice
thanks

MFfan · 03-20-2008, 10:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toobz

It reminded me of a Conn, so I went looking. The Pan American 58B
has a lot in common with your horn. Take a look.

The Conn Loyalist

Conn sold the Pan Am line to many, many outlets. Yours could be a Pan Am stencil with some after market adds. Does the serial number begin with a "P" ?

That pinky ring "C" also reminds me of the type of stylized bracing used on Conn saxes from the mid 60's on.

Then again, it might just be some companies copy.

I would agree on the resemblance, but I just have the feeling that Calvert is of an earlier time than the one on Connloyalist. Some proportions are not quite the same such as the water key placement and the distance between the brace and the end of the leader pipe and the pinky hook. The Calvert also has a fixed ring. It is impossible to unravel many of these horn's parentage, but fun to have everyone look and speculate.

03-19-2008, 09:01 AM	#1 (permalink)
medwards63 New Friend Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Western Maine Posts: 4	Can anyone ID my Horn? After lurking about for several months I have finally registered and hope to enter into some great discussions. But first, I need some help identifying a horn I've just acquired. It is stamped 'Calvert Artist' on the bell and 'belgium' on the MP receiver. The only other markings is a s/n of 475 on the 1st valve casing. It has an art deco style with raw brass and nickel plate and has hex caps and keys. The valves are bottom sprung. Any ideas/info would be most appreciated. Last edited by medwards63 : 03-19-2008 at 09:37 AM. Reason: added information

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Toobz Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Prescott Valley , AZ Posts: 544	Re: Can anyone ID my Horn? Try Horn-u-copia, this site specializes in identifying unusual horns and makers. Horn-u-copia public forum discussing antique, obscure and out-of-production Brass Instruments Also, if you can, post some pics. Your horn may be a stencil of some other well known brand. There are many folks here that can identify a horn with just a photo or two. Good luck !
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medwards63 New Friend Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Western Maine Posts: 4	Re: Can anyone ID my Horn? Thanks! I'll try to get some pics up this afternoon.

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MFfan Piano User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Kalamazoo, Michigan Brand: Barrington,Besson,Roth Posts: 471	Re: Can anyone ID my Horn? I looked on Horn-u-copia and couldn't find any reference to a Calvert on their main, secondary, or trade name database. There are so many stencils it is very hard to id many. I have one of those mysteries.
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Cornet1 Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Essex, England Posts: 131	Re: Can anyone ID my Horn? I suspect that this has something o do with the late Eddie Calvert who was a world famous trumpet star in the 1940's and 50's,...in fact, probably the last solo trumpet player to record multiple hit records in the 'pop' charts. He was born in Preston, Lancashire of a brass band family and by the mid 50's was a household name. Like a lot of the 50's stars he was overwhelmed by the 60's pop scene and retired to South Africa. He was a great self promoter so it would be highly likely that he attempted to sell his name on trumpets.

03-20-2008, 02:53 PM	#6 (permalink)
medwards63 New Friend Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Western Maine Posts: 4	Re: Can anyone ID my Horn? Thanks for the replies - what a great forum. Here are some pics: Snow08 023a.jpg Snow08 018a.jpg

03-20-2008, 03:23 PM	#7 (permalink)
Dale Proctor Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Heart of Dixie Brand: Bach, vintage Conn Posts: 636	Re: Can anyone ID my Horn? Some characteristics have the look of an old Getzen, while others do not.......just thinking out loud.....
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03-20-2008, 05:43 PM	#8 (permalink)
Toobz Mezzo Piano User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Prescott Valley , AZ Posts: 544	Re: Can anyone ID my Horn? It reminded me of a Conn, so I went looking. The Pan American 58B has a lot in common with your horn. Take a look. The Conn Loyalist Conn sold the Pan Am line to many, many outlets. Yours could be a Pan Am stencil with some after market adds. Does the serial number begin with a "P" ? That pinky ring "C" also reminds me of the type of stylized bracing used on Conn saxes from the mid 60's on. Then again, it might just be some companies copy. Last edited by Toobz : 03-20-2008 at 05:49 PM.
	__________________ Conn 10B New Era trumpet Martin Committee cornet And lots of other old and smelly stuff !

03-20-2008, 08:53 PM	#9 (permalink)
cchsmarcher New Friend Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 1	Re: Can anyone ID my Horn? So i have a trumpet, and there is no brand name on it, but there is a serial number, or some kind of number printed on a valve case, (0154069) and i have looked every where and can't find any company with that serial number, or even close to it,. help? my e-mail is cchsmarcher@yahoo.com i also have aol instant messenger=chriswilliamsduh so get back to me in anyway if u have any advice thanks Last edited by cchsmarcher : 03-20-2008 at 08:56 PM.
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