Conn 22B New York Symphony

bigaggietrumpet · 01-20-2005, 08:15 PM

Ok, who's played one? Sounds like an interesting instrument. I'm referring preferably to the later model with the pinky ring, but even if you've played the earlier model go ahead and describe it.

Schwab · 01-20-2005, 11:27 PM

I played a 22B Symphony Special with the nickel trim from 1935 when I was playing 4th on the Glenn Miller band. Those horns have nice mellow sounds, free blows and good intonation. They were the Bach 37s of their day. My horns for sale if anyone is interested, see my website.

tom turner · 01-21-2005, 12:02 AM

Hi Dylan,

I see on your website that you played for ol' "Gotta Minute?" back in 2000.

Did you know Michael McKenzie? I imagine he was in the band about that same time.

Sincerely,

Tom Turner

Schwab · 01-21-2005, 12:23 AM

Hi Tom, that name sounds very familiar, was he a trumpet player? If so he wasn't on the band with me, maybe he left just before I joined and guys talked about him. We went through a lot of sax players while I was out there, I have a bad memory.

tom turner · 01-21-2005, 12:51 AM

Hi,

Yes, he's a really FINE trumpeter, both as a lead . . . but also as a wonderful soloist with so many ideas and styles in his horn that it amazes me. It's always a treat to play with him.

Michael did only a six month tour contract with Larry and he hated the road. He naturally played the second book and I'm sure he wow'ed 'em all in the band.

He hates to travel . . . to everyone's loss.

Michael told me people used to dread it when Larry would come up after a gig and say, "Got a minute?" That meant they were getting ready to go have their butt chewed out . . . usually for boppin' on a Miller chart.

I knew a bone player in that band too who was in the band for a long time. He majored in music at FSU and I used to do some gigs with him down in Florida many years ago. His name temporarily escapes me . . .

Tom

Schwab · 01-21-2005, 11:22 AM

HA! "Got a minute?" Whenever Larry would come up and impart his wisdom on us we'd tell the other guys, "Yeah, I just got a minute for..." Larry's still out there, married now. Great bone player/frontman, bad band leader. To keep it a little bit in the thread, he plays a King 2B.

W Scott · 01-21-2005, 12:38 PM

22B's are a great horn. I have both a Constellation and a (1947) 22B. Both horns are small/medium bores, both have loads of power and sound. The 22B is a bit darker and sweeter than the Constellation. The 22B I have is just a bit easier to play in the higher register than the Constellation.

What's nice is that you can pick up a 22B for much less than a Constellation. Last month, a mint 1940's era 22B went for $480. Mine is in good shape mechanically but with worn finish and it was only $350. Good luck finding a Constellation in good shape for those prices!

bigaggietrumpet · 01-21-2005, 01:54 PM

ok, so would you call this a suitable legit horn?

Schwab · 01-21-2005, 02:25 PM

22Bs were used very often in major orchestras around the country before the standard became C trumpets. I believe the NY Phil section played 22Bs in the '40's, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.

W Scott · 01-22-2005, 11:09 AM

Oh yeah, great legit horn for bands or orchestras. Not a bad jazz horn either with the right mouthpiece.

01-20-2005, 08:15 PM	#1 (permalink)
bigaggietrumpet Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: College Station,TX Posts: 814	Conn 22B New York Symphony Ok, who's played one? Sounds like an interesting instrument. I'm referring preferably to the later model with the pinky ring, but even if you've played the earlier model go ahead and describe it.
	__________________ Michael Smith Hullabaloo: The official band of Texas A&M Basketball Kanstul 1537/ Schilke 14 LA Olds Studio

01-20-2005, 11:27 PM	#2 (permalink)
Schwab Moderator Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the road Posts: 917	I played a 22B Symphony Special with the nickel trim from 1935 when I was playing 4th on the Glenn Miller band. Those horns have nice mellow sounds, free blows and good intonation. They were the Bach 37s of their day. My horns for sale if anyone is interested, see my website.
	__________________ Dylan Schwab Stage 1 New York

01-21-2005, 12:23 AM	#4 (permalink)
Schwab Moderator Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the road Posts: 917	Hi Tom, that name sounds very familiar, was he a trumpet player? If so he wasn't on the band with me, maybe he left just before I joined and guys talked about him. We went through a lot of sax players while I was out there, I have a bad memory.
	__________________ Dylan Schwab Stage 1 New York

01-21-2005, 11:22 AM	#6 (permalink)
Schwab Moderator Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the road Posts: 917	HA! "Got a minute?" Whenever Larry would come up and impart his wisdom on us we'd tell the other guys, "Yeah, I just got a minute for..." Larry's still out there, married now. Great bone player/frontman, bad band leader. To keep it a little bit in the thread, he plays a King 2B.
	__________________ Dylan Schwab Stage 1 New York

01-21-2005, 12:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
W Scott Piano User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Carson City, NV. Posts: 490	22B's are a great horn. I have both a Constellation and a (1947) 22B. Both horns are small/medium bores, both have loads of power and sound. The 22B is a bit darker and sweeter than the Constellation. The 22B I have is just a bit easier to play in the higher register than the Constellation. What's nice is that you can pick up a 22B for much less than a Constellation. Last month, a mint 1940's era 22B went for $480. Mine is in good shape mechanically but with worn finish and it was only $350. Good luck finding a Constellation in good shape for those prices!
	__________________ Gabriel is NOT a woodwind player!

01-21-2005, 12:02 AM	#3 (permalink)
tom turner Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Brand: F. Oakes tpts/flug/cornet Posts: 788	Hi Dylan, I see on your website that you played for ol' "Gotta Minute?" back in 2000. Did you know Michael McKenzie? I imagine he was in the band about that same time. Sincerely, Tom Turner

01-21-2005, 12:51 AM	#5 (permalink)
tom turner Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Brand: F. Oakes tpts/flug/cornet Posts: 788	Hi, Yes, he's a really FINE trumpeter, both as a lead . . . but also as a wonderful soloist with so many ideas and styles in his horn that it amazes me. It's always a treat to play with him. Michael did only a six month tour contract with Larry and he hated the road. He naturally played the second book and I'm sure he wow'ed 'em all in the band. He hates to travel . . . to everyone's loss. Michael told me people used to dread it when Larry would come up after a gig and say, "Got a minute?" That meant they were getting ready to go have their butt chewed out . . . usually for boppin' on a Miller chart. I knew a bone player in that band too who was in the band for a long time. He majored in music at FSU and I used to do some gigs with him down in Florida many years ago. His name temporarily escapes me . . . Tom

01-21-2005, 01:54 PM	#8 (permalink)
bigaggietrumpet Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: College Station,TX Posts: 814	ok, so would you call this a suitable legit horn?
	__________________ Michael Smith Hullabaloo: The official band of Texas A&M Basketball Kanstul 1537/ Schilke 14 LA Olds Studio

01-21-2005, 02:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
Schwab Moderator Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: the road Posts: 917	22Bs were used very often in major orchestras around the country before the standard became C trumpets. I believe the NY Phil section played 22Bs in the '40's, anyone correct me if I'm wrong.
	__________________ Dylan Schwab Stage 1 New York

01-22-2005, 11:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
W Scott Piano User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Carson City, NV. Posts: 490	Oh yeah, great legit horn for bands or orchestras. Not a bad jazz horn either with the right mouthpiece.
	__________________ Gabriel is NOT a woodwind player!

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