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Old 05-22-2008, 03:39 PM   #21
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Re: Cornet Junkie #2

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Man, I'd love to know the history of that cornet (it's 138 years old, BTW). In addition to being very interesting, the provenance would make its worth skyrocket (as if it hasn't already done so...).

The newest cornet I own is my Bach 184G Strad, a mere child at 15 years old, and it's the best horn I own.
If your other cornets hear you say that, they will get even by malfunctioning during concerts.

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Old 05-22-2008, 03:57 PM   #22
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If your other cornets hear you say that, they will get even by malfunctioning during concerts...
At least then I'd have a good excuse for my rare clams.
I played some marches at a rehearsal last night on the Bach cornet, and it was pretty neat. Imagine that - playing cornet parts on a cornet - what a concept. Too bad more players don't go both ways and play trumpet parts on trumpet and cornet parts on cornet. I think the music would sound a little more like the composer/arranger intended if they did. I played a joint concert at UAB a month or two ago with our British-style brass band, and a local high school band was one of the participants. One of the numbers they played was a Sousa march, and the trumpet section played cornets on that piece. Pretty cool...
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Maybe more of us trumpet players would have cornets if you guys with 7 or 8 of them weren't out bidding us on ebay to score your 8th or 9th cornet. (:

You'll know when your cornet addiction has gone too far.... when you start spending your cigarette, booze, or cocaine money to buy another cornet!
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I probably couldn't play the various old cornets that Dale owns because I would have mouthpiece problems.

Those old cornets often required mouthpieces with strange shank sizes and strange shank tapers, and I could never afford to have special Bach clones made to fit all the different cornets.

Even with Conn cornets I am sticking with ones from 1958 and later just so that I'll know that my cheap standard Bach and Weril mouthpieces fit.

Would anyone like to share their experiences with their old cornets having strange mouthpiece shank requirements?

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You'll know when your cornet addiction has gone too far.... when you start spending your cigarette, booze, or cocaine money to buy another cornet!
You are so cynical...

... I like cynical

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Maybe more of us trumpet players would have cornets if you guys with 7 or 8 of them weren't out bidding us on ebay to score your 8th or 9th cornet. (:

You'll know when your cornet addiction has gone too far.... when you start spending your cigarette, booze, or cocaine money to buy another cornet!
Sure, I have bought several on Ebay. My biggest purchase was my Bach CR 310 (Shepard's crook) that I payed all of $126.00 + shipping for. They regularly sell for closer to $200. So you can't blame me for driving the price up on that auction. My best horns were all purchased locally. My Conn New Era 10B trumpet, Martin Committee Cornet, Conn 80A Cornet were all bought at my local swap meet for peanuts. My Conn 10M Tenor sax, was bought at a yard sale.

What it comes down to is this. If you want some of these vintage horns, get out there and find them. If you don't want to pay Ebay prices, you don't have to. You do have to put out the effort if you want to own some of these old gems. They may need some work, and you may not find your specific dream horn, but you can find some nice horns if the effort is there.

P.S. I know of 2 vintage Bb trumpets for sale at a local antique store.
One is a Reynolds Emperor for $65.00 (missing the #2 slide), the other is a Holton Legionairre for $95.00. If you want them, PM me and I'll tell you where they are. If they were cornets, I probably would have bought them already. :)

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Don't you mean conical?
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Don't you mean conical?
After all the puns I have posted at others, I walked right into that one, didn't I?

"He who lives by the pun shall die by the pun."

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I probably couldn't play the various old cornets that Dale owns because I would have mouthpiece problems.

Those old cornets often required mouthpieces with strange shank sizes and strange shank tapers, and I could never afford to have special Bach clones made to fit all the different cornets.

Even with Conn cornets I am sticking with ones from 1958 and later just so that I'll know that my cheap standard Bach and Weril mouthpieces fit.

Would anyone like to share their experiences with their old cornets having strange mouthpiece shank requirements?

- Morris
Actually, modern cornet mouthpieces have "fit" every cornet I've ever owned, except for the Olds Ambassador. It had a flugelhorn-sized receiver. Now, some of the really old cornets I have (or had) really need a slightly smaller shank, but work OK with a Bach piece. A Schilke will work even better, as they taper a little smaller to the end. The really old cornets, those from the 1850's and 1860's, require numerous sizes. A trumpet mouthpiece will actually fit many of them. We use a cornet mouthpiece with a trumpet-to-cornet adapter on those. After playing my 1870 Lehnert on a disguised Schilke mouthpiece for years, I decided to try a period mouthpiece on it. In addition to fitting slightly better, the intonation is much better and the tone is really mellow. That's really the hot setup, and that same reasoning works on many other cornets - they play pretty well on the mouthpieces they were designed for, or at least something similar.
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Re: Cornet Junkie #2

Being a trumpeter in an orchestra provides more rests than band music provides cornetists, and we can come up with some wicked puns--for example:

The unique thing about cornetists is "they're conical boors."
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