Does anyone recognise this cornet mouthpiece?

Electric · 10-07-2009, 09:35 PM

My trumpet teacher had me try this mouthpiece, expecting it to sound terrible, but it sounded great for me. When he played it made him sound worse, but it made me sound better. Does anyone know what this is or why it has this effect?

bagmangood · 10-07-2009, 09:53 PM

Mouthpieces are one of three things that makes trumpet players go broke
(one of the others being trumpets)

Mouthpieces work in mysterious ways, what may work perfectly may not work at for someone else. This can depend on many variables, such as teeth structure, shape of your mouth, lip size, etc.

Stuff happens

crazyandy88 · 10-07-2009, 10:02 PM

I know why...your mouth is different than his...that's it.

missmybaby · 10-07-2009, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazyandy88

I know why...your mouth is different than his...that's it.

"Boy, you shore got a purty mouth!"

-Bad "Deliverance" reference, sorry

I probably REALLY should edit this one, ah well...

Electric · 10-07-2009, 10:47 PM

Does anyone know what a mouthpiece like this is called, or if I would be able to find another one. There isn't any writing on the mouthpiece.

bagmangood · 10-07-2009, 11:21 PM

Looks like an early 20th century cornet mpc to me,
First, I would ask if your teacher would mind selling it to you (if it isn't yours)
if not, its probably a stencil or mass-produced mouthpiece where you'll never find another one exactly like it :-/
However, if you really really like the mouthpiece, you can send it to a shop that copies mouthpieces (osmun, pickett brass, kanstul, etc.)

trumpetnick · 10-08-2009, 05:04 AM

I believe that A. Courtois made cornet mouthpiece in similar shape. But they would have the brand name on it.

Cornet1 · 10-08-2009, 05:14 AM

Difficult to see from that high angle but looks like Besson original cornet mpcs from about 1880 to 1940.......like these??

trumpetnick · 10-08-2009, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cornet1

Difficult to see from that high angle but looks like Besson original cornet mpcs from about 1880 to 1940.......like these??

Are these Kosikups?

Some of the old courtois are also quite close:

Cornet1 · 10-08-2009, 08:01 AM

Nick,..there are some interesting mpcs there,..but, no there are no 'Kosicups' in your pic that I can see....Here are some 'Kosicups' The one at left is Sally Army version.

10-07-2009, 09:35 PM	#1
Electric New Friend Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	Does anyone recognise this cornet mouthpiece? My trumpet teacher had me try this mouthpiece, expecting it to sound terrible, but it sounded great for me. When he played it made him sound worse, but it made me sound better. Does anyone know what this is or why it has this effect? Last edited by Electric; 10-07-2009 at 10:52 PM.

10-07-2009, 09:53 PM	#2
bagmangood Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bostonish & San Francisco Posts: 946	Re: Does anyone recognise this cornet mouthpiece? Mouthpieces are one of three things that makes trumpet players go broke (one of the others being trumpets) Mouthpieces work in mysterious ways, what may work perfectly may not work at for someone else. This can depend on many variables, such as teeth structure, shape of your mouth, lip size, etc. Stuff happens __________________ Bb: Courtois 305 "Elite" C: Bach C180-239 (Akwright conversion), Cornet: Conn Wonder (1900) Picc: Selmer Paris, ~1971

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crazyandy88 Pianissimo User Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 78	Re: Does anyone recognise this cornet mouthpiece? I know why...your mouth is different than his...that's it. __________________ Andy Sites

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Electric New Friend Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3	Re: Does anyone recognise this cornet mouthpiece? Does anyone know what a mouthpiece like this is called, or if I would be able to find another one. There isn't any writing on the mouthpiece. Last edited by Electric; 10-07-2009 at 10:52 PM.

10-07-2009, 11:21 PM	#6
bagmangood Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bostonish & San Francisco Posts: 946	Re: Does anyone recognise this cornet mouthpiece? Looks like an early 20th century cornet mpc to me, First, I would ask if your teacher would mind selling it to you (if it isn't yours) if not, its probably a stencil or mass-produced mouthpiece where you'll never find another one exactly like it :-/ However, if you really really like the mouthpiece, you can send it to a shop that copies mouthpieces (osmun, pickett brass, kanstul, etc.) __________________ Bb: Courtois 305 "Elite" C: Bach C180-239 (Akwright conversion), Cornet: Conn Wonder (1900) Picc: Selmer Paris, ~1971

10-08-2009, 05:04 AM	#7
trumpetnick Forte User Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Vidin, Bulgaria Posts: 1,890	Re: Does anyone recognise this cornet mouthpiece? I believe that A. Courtois made cornet mouthpiece in similar shape. But they would have the brand name on it. __________________ Spada Bach B flat 72, leadpipe 2L/DWMM1.5C Spada Bach C 256, leadpipe 2LQ/DWMM1.5C 1956 Olds Ambassador Cornet Spada Custom Piccolo If you don't know where you are going, you 'll end up someplace else

10-08-2009, 05:14 AM	#8
Cornet1 Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Essex, England Posts: 210	Re: Does anyone recognise this cornet mouthpiece? Difficult to see from that high angle but looks like Besson original cornet mpcs from about 1880 to 1940.......like these??

10-08-2009, 08:01 AM	#10
Cornet1 Pianissimo User Join Date: May 2005 Location: Essex, England Posts: 210	Re: Does anyone recognise this cornet mouthpiece? Nick,..there are some interesting mpcs there,..but, no there are no 'Kosicups' in your pic that I can see....Here are some 'Kosicups' The one at left is Sally Army version.

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