First Vintage Horn

pmkt16 · 10-24-2004, 03:55 PM

To all you guys out there what was your first/favorite Vintage horn to have owned or played?

I bought my first vintage horn a little while ago and it was a Conn 48B Vocabell and I absolutely love it.

bigaggietrumpet · 10-24-2004, 03:58 PM

Well, people are gonna roll their eyes, but my first (and only to date) vintage horn is my Olds Studio. I love this horn. Love it. It handles jazz and lead roles just fine, and can even handle legit work. Did I mention I love this horn?

Heavens2kadonka · 10-24-2004, 04:51 PM

The first vintage horn I lusted after was a Couesnon "Medal" horn, which I couldn't get because of some jerk with $150 more than me...

I then got a Buescher true Tone, which is in perfect shape, no dents dings or scratched, in raw brass. Of course, it has no valves or spit valves....

The first vintage I owned and played on is "Ole Trusty," a 1960 olds Ambassador.

I finally got that horn a lusted after, even though it was a different one (same year, though), the Couesnon. It can play, but it needs new valve springs, and professional cleaning. I think I'll name her Sarah....

Sometimes I entertain dreams of owning an antique music store....

Van

bigaggietrumpet · 10-24-2004, 05:28 PM

and here I was thinking I was the only one who named my horns...

tom turner · 10-24-2004, 10:10 PM

Hi,

My first vintage cornet happened almost by accident.

I read an ad on eBay for a '73 Benge 3X trumpet, in my state of Georgia, that was within 100 digits of one I'd always regretted selling. Contacting the seller, he invited me to come play it before bidding. The seller was a guy named Rich Ita . . . the noted vintage horn restorer.

Well, the Benge played great . . . but didn't light my fire. I mentioned to Rich that I'd love to get a vintage cornet some day to use in my Dixieland group . . . and he started hauling out tons of really neat horns:

J.W. Pepper, a gold plated Conn New Wonder, Olds Opera, and many more cool cornets! However, when I picked up a restored 1911 Boston 3-Star (w/ complete kit and case) I was stunned with how it played and how it sounded.

That 3-Star felt literally ALIVE . . . and the horn fit me so well that I HAD to have it!!! It was $850 . . . and worth every penny, for soooo many vintage instruments play so poorly. This one was as good an instrument as ever made!

For the next nine months, until I played a trumpet just as good, I played that 3-Star unless I HAD to play trumpet. It's an incredible horn.

Other vintage horns have come and gone, and I've now got another 3-Star within about 150 digits of my first one, as well as several really outstanding vintage cornets . . . and an vintage Olds trombone that comes with BOTH the slide AND valve trombone assembly in its case.

Tom

Heavens2kadonka · 10-24-2004, 10:56 PM

Are the Boston trumpets of comparable worth? I know I might be half-hijacking the subject, but theres one on ebay at the moment. I dont have the time left to get the url, but its listed as a vintage Boston trumpet. Its going for pretty cheap, if anyone is interested.

Van

bigaggietrumpet · 10-24-2004, 11:59 PM

Yeah, I saw the same horn, and wondered the same thing. It's a 3 star trumpet, if that helps anyone.

nieuwguyski · 10-25-2004, 02:24 AM

My first was a 1921 Conn 10A vocal cornet, which I bought back in '86 or '87 and still have.

I'd have to say my favorite is my '23 Conn 80A, which I play weekly in a polka (!) band.

The two I still kick myself for not buying when I held them in my hot little hands were an Olds Recording and a .468-bore Severinsen Getzen. Oh, and the Olds Opera.

The one I kick myself for letting get away was the Selmer K-Modified large-bore cornet that had once belonged to Laurie McGaw, of the San Francisco Symphony.

tom turner · 10-28-2004, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavens2kadonka

Are the Boston trumpets of comparable worth? I know I might be half-hijacking the subject, but theres one on ebay at the moment. I dont have the time left to get the url, but its listed as a vintage Boston trumpet. Its going for pretty cheap, if anyone is interested.

Van

Hi,

I saw that Boston 3-Star trumpet on eBay too. It was a late Boston serial number, well after Cundy-Bettoney purchased Boston in 1914 and set a record in ruining a great horn-making company!

Even the gorgeous engravings found on earlier 3-Stars was missing on the Cundy-Bettoney horn . . . replaced by what appears to be a cheaper stamping.

I didn't check the auction to see how it ended but I wouldn't imagine it brought much.

Tom

tom turner · 10-28-2004, 11:29 PM

I just checked. The late Boston trumpet started with an opening bid of $150 . . . and got two bids. The winning bid was a little over $159

Tom

10-24-2004, 03:55 PM	#1 (permalink)
pmkt16 New Friend Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 43	First Vintage Horn To all you guys out there what was your first/favorite Vintage horn to have owned or played? I bought my first vintage horn a little while ago and it was a Conn 48B Vocabell and I absolutely love it.

10-24-2004, 03:58 PM	#2 (permalink)
bigaggietrumpet Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: College Station,TX Posts: 814	Well, people are gonna roll their eyes, but my first (and only to date) vintage horn is my Olds Studio. I love this horn. Love it. It handles jazz and lead roles just fine, and can even handle legit work. Did I mention I love this horn? __________________ Michael Smith Hullabaloo: The official band of Texas A&M Basketball Kanstul 1537/ Schilke 14 LA Olds Studio

10-24-2004, 04:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,283	The first vintage horn I lusted after was a Couesnon "Medal" horn, which I couldn't get because of some jerk with $150 more than me... I then got a Buescher true Tone, which is in perfect shape, no dents dings or scratched, in raw brass. Of course, it has no valves or spit valves.... The first vintage I owned and played on is "Ole Trusty," a 1960 olds Ambassador. I finally got that horn a lusted after, even though it was a different one (same year, though), the Couesnon. It can play, but it needs new valve springs, and professional cleaning. I think I'll name her Sarah.... Sometimes I entertain dreams of owning an antique music store.... Van __________________ Stage 1 California Light '94 Bach Strad 37 1900 Eb Cornet LOUD Steve Patrick 10 1/2 C LOUD LM93

10-24-2004, 05:28 PM	#4 (permalink)
bigaggietrumpet Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: College Station,TX Posts: 814	and here I was thinking I was the only one who named my horns... __________________ Michael Smith Hullabaloo: The official band of Texas A&M Basketball Kanstul 1537/ Schilke 14 LA Olds Studio

10-24-2004, 10:56 PM	#6 (permalink)
Heavens2kadonka Forte User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Carthage, TN Posts: 1,283	Are the Boston trumpets of comparable worth? I know I might be half-hijacking the subject, but theres one on ebay at the moment. I dont have the time left to get the url, but its listed as a vintage Boston trumpet. Its going for pretty cheap, if anyone is interested. Van __________________ Stage 1 California Light '94 Bach Strad 37 1900 Eb Cornet LOUD Steve Patrick 10 1/2 C LOUD LM93

10-24-2004, 10:10 PM	#5 (permalink)
tom turner Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 788	Hi, My first vintage cornet happened almost by accident. I read an ad on eBay for a '73 Benge 3X trumpet, in my state of Georgia, that was within 100 digits of one I'd always regretted selling. Contacting the seller, he invited me to come play it before bidding. The seller was a guy named Rich Ita . . . the noted vintage horn restorer. Well, the Benge played great . . . but didn't light my fire. I mentioned to Rich that I'd love to get a vintage cornet some day to use in my Dixieland group . . . and he started hauling out tons of really neat horns: J.W. Pepper, a gold plated Conn New Wonder, Olds Opera, and many more cool cornets! However, when I picked up a restored 1911 Boston 3-Star (w/ complete kit and case) I was stunned with how it played and how it sounded. That 3-Star felt literally ALIVE . . . and the horn fit me so well that I HAD to have it!!! It was $850 . . . and worth every penny, for soooo many vintage instruments play so poorly. This one was as good an instrument as ever made! For the next nine months, until I played a trumpet just as good, I played that 3-Star unless I HAD to play trumpet. It's an incredible horn. Other vintage horns have come and gone, and I've now got another 3-Star within about 150 digits of my first one, as well as several really outstanding vintage cornets . . . and an vintage Olds trombone that comes with BOTH the slide AND valve trombone assembly in its case. Tom

10-24-2004, 11:59 PM	#7 (permalink)
bigaggietrumpet Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: College Station,TX Posts: 814	Yeah, I saw the same horn, and wondered the same thing. It's a 3 star trumpet, if that helps anyone. __________________ Michael Smith Hullabaloo: The official band of Texas A&M Basketball Kanstul 1537/ Schilke 14 LA Olds Studio

10-25-2004, 02:24 AM	#8 (permalink)
nieuwguyski Pianissimo User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Santa Cruz, CA Posts: 190	My first was a 1921 Conn 10A vocal cornet, which I bought back in '86 or '87 and still have. I'd have to say my favorite is my '23 Conn 80A, which I play weekly in a polka (!) band. The two I still kick myself for not buying when I held them in my hot little hands were an Olds Recording and a .468-bore Severinsen Getzen. Oh, and the Olds Opera. The one I kick myself for letting get away was the Selmer K-Modified large-bore cornet that had once belonged to Laurie McGaw, of the San Francisco Symphony. __________________ John N. Nieuwguyski

10-28-2004, 11:29 PM	#10 (permalink)
tom turner Mezzo Forte User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Georgia, USA Posts: 788	I just checked. The late Boston trumpet started with an opening bid of $150 . . . and got two bids. The winning bid was a little over $159 Tom

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