screamingmorris

What is the bore size of a 1950's Getzen Super Deluxe cornet?

There is no reliable source of info on the Internet, even the Getzen company told me they don't know.

I know that several people in the 2 trumpet sites own Getzen Super Deluxe cornets (which I believe are part of the Model 80 series?), so I would greatly appreciate it if one of you could measure your bore size and post the results.

The Power Bore model is allegedly .468, so the regular Super deluxe model should presumably have a smaller bore than that.

Also, I once read that the Power Bore model can be identified by the "PB" on the cornet.
Does anyone know where on the cornet that "PB" would be found?

- Morris

Vulgano Brother

If you had a set of dent balls, it would be easy, but you might want to consider taking a marble, laying it in the second valve slide and comparing that to the same from some known bore sizes. A micrometer would be more exact, more fun to use, and can be used for mouthpieces too, but sometimes it is easier to justify buying marbles to replace those we have lost than a new tool to our spouses.

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screamingmorris

I don't own the Getzen cornet, but I am thinking about buying it.
I would not have a chance to measure the bore size before I buy it.

I strongly suspect that the Getzen Super Deluxe bore size is only about .460, while I would prefer a larger bore size.
But if the Getzen for sale is a Power Bore version, I would be thrilled. I just don't know how to tell if it is a Power Bore version.

I know that "Old Lou" lists a Getzen Super Deluxe cornet among his collection of 23,974 instruments (I'm estimating :^), but I also saw a post of his in Trumpet Herald in which he said that he has difficulty getting to some of his instruments that are in storage so he might not be able to measure his.

- Morris

oldlou

Well, Morris, you goaded me into digging through my 'accumilation' to find my 'Super Deluxe' cornet, which is one of the 90 series horns, not the 80 'deluxe' grade. Measuring with a Mitutoyo dial calipe, I find the I.D. of the second valve tuning slide to be a nominal .460" +/- .002" .


By the way, my boss,( wife ), would eject me nd my 'accumilation' if I had anywhere nearly the number of horns that you estimate. I do have more than 50, which has her 'EXTREMELY' upset about the clutter and loss of space in our home office and storage room.


OLDLOU>>

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screamingmorris

That is a *tremendous* help.
Thank you!

But you still couldn't resist bidding on a 1953 Holton cornet in another Web site a couple of days ago.
Send me $5,000 or I'll tell your wife about the 1953 Holton cornet

I have the same addiction for wanting to buy trumpets and cornets, but not enough money to succumb to it very often.
And when I do welcome another instrument in the door, I do so knowing that one will have to go out the door to make room for it.
One trumpet + one cornet, maximum.
But "If I were a rich man"...

- Morris

MFfan

Hey Morris, don't be too hard on Lou! I have seen a couple of others he has a bid on, but will never tell. A lot of the fun for us poor blokes is the chase, at our age very slowly, whether we get anything or not! Thinking thoughts of acquisition helps put some excitement into usually dull days. As I recall the Ferengi never took days off from their "laws of acquisition". A bargain in hand is a start to two others in the bush, I always say.

As for his lair at home, I have been there and can attest you can't avoid close encounters of the brassy kind , even though he has to do some digging to find some of them! You know the saying,"Two's company, three's a crowd"? We, it only takes two guys of our size to make a crowd.

The next horn is only a mouse click away!

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screamingmorris

When a Getzen Super Deluxe has what appears to be a copper leadpipe, is it pure copper? Or is the leadpipe copper-plated over brass?

And on those samples where the bell looks copper, is the bell pure copper? Or is the bell copper-plated over brass?

- Morris